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People are leaving SF but not for Austin or Miami. USPS data shows where

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I sympathize with the people in the article! My solution to improving my financial well-being during the pandemic has been to swallow my pride and move into one of my parents' investment properties in East Bay. As a bonus, I'm learning to be more handy by taking on moderate home maintenance tasks!

Considering that most young people in tech have parents significantly wealthier than them, it's amazing to me that more people don't pursue this route and insist on throwing money away on rent.

I know it's not as cool as the bohemian atmosphere of living with startup teammates in a shared house, but living rent-free in your family's spare home is the responsible and quick way to save tons of money!

Hmm, my one surviving parent lives in my own investment property (which is not a very good investment, but at least allowed us to keep his rent from spiraling ever higher). He does have a nicer woodworking shop than I do, so at least is good for some repairs!

I am somehow both sure you are joking and also wondering if you are a co-worker of mine who legitimately is doing this.

> Considering that most young people in tech have parents significantly wealthier than them

Citation needed. Thinking back, only 2-3 devs (out of 100-200?) I know come from families wealthy enough to have empty houses to spare. At least AFAIK.

I am mostly talking about my own peers in the Bay Area, which is the subject of this conversation. A significant fraction of people in tech, around my age, here in the Bay Area have parents who are late-career in even more lucrative professions, such as real estate, finance, law, medicine, etc. A lot of them have investment properties in the area. If you go to HotPads or Apartments.com, who do you think are the small landlords you're renting from?

Where did you move in East Bay ? I live in an East Bay suburb and it is amazing. Great schools, rural, hilly, forested, great community, diverse, huge lots, and yet only 10 mins from Oakland Berkeley for all urban fun

I'm in Walnut Creek... I guess not really East Bay anymore, but it's fine for what it is.

Walnut Creek is nice. I go to Mt Diablo frequently

Same for NYC, people are leaving Manhattan for larger places in Brooklyn, Long Island and nearby states like NJ/CT. Everybody expects a hybrid wfh model, so everyone within a communitable range of an office in NY.

My bet that FAANG will get more office space in NYC as it cheap and there is plenty of work force to get from the financial services industry.

> ...but not for Austin or Miami

> The only two out-of-state destinations among the top 20 were Travis County in Texas, home of Austin...

But not even in the top 15.

Lots of people moving around the area but only a net 61K people, less than 1%, moved out of the Bay Area. Basically below the noise floor unless you are someplace receiving the immigrants.

For the many people who can’t see this due to ad block blocking:

Top places - 1 Alameda County

- other parts of the Bay Area (top 6 all Bay Area )

- 7 LA area

- 8 San Diego

- 9 Napa

- 10,11,12 various Cali metros (Sacramento etc)

- 13 Nevada

- 14 Solano

- 15 Santa Cruz

It should be pointed out that #13 is Nevada County in California.

Oops, not native to cali, had no idea...

> - 10,11,12 various Cali metros (Sacramento etc)

The top 15 are all California counties, but of 10-12 only Sacramento would even loosely be a “metro” (though it's not referring to the metro but the county, which are not coextensive.)

9 and 14 are Bay-adajacent, though not part of the 9-county Bay Area.

Looked here for list of where. Was disappointed.

It's the top chart of the article. tl;dr: Other Bay Area counties, with Alameda and San Mateo tops on the list. LA, San Diego, and Riverside round out the top 10.

Why? It's right at the top of the article. Almost entirely other Bay Area counties, rest of top 15 are also in California.

Shouldn't be a big surprise.

I also couldn’t see the list due to ad block blocking. Added a top level comment after viewing list.

Thank you.

It is all Bay Area counties, with Alameda, Marin, and San Mateo rounding out the top 3

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