Quad9 public DNS moves to Switzerland
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Germans go out on the streets, while swiss people are way more content with whatever shady surveillance shit the government does.
E.g. We have the mandatory data retention bullshit, I'm not sure if this is covered by this law, but if it is they'd have to save all logs for 6 months. Iirc the germans successfully fought this. Btw. these records can be stored outside of switzerland.
Smells like a PR stunt without any substance.
Security made in <foo> is always a PR stunt. Deutsche Telecom, 1&1 and others tried it by pouring huge sums into an "Email made in Germany" campaign that only benefited a particular consulting company. It utterly failed because their geo-fencing idea was technically unenforcable.
CH is more dangerous because the same idiotic ideas brought to Switzerland will often take off. Most EU security companies I know would not easily consider CH as a great location unless it has something to do with business strategy: 1) tax, 2) location of a holding company see #1, or 3) sell into the CH market.
On the other hand many non EU based security start-up CEO's often talk about it as it had some security benefit. But as you say this is a huge lie since data protection has nothing to do with banking secrecy and even when the latter is in question a New Mexico LLC is a much more secretive vehicle than a Swiss GmbH/Srl
[0] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Mail_made_in_Germany
[1] https://www.telekom.com/en/media/media-information/archive/d...
I mean to a degree. There's other talk about some countries wanting to require backdoors in end to end encryption products. If you're in a country that doesn't have that and offer an E2E product, i mean yeah, that can be a selling point. And you should probably point out that your regulated in a country that doesn't require backdoors.
But in this case, the laws in Switzerland are frankly just... shit between the mandatory data retention (BÜPF) and DNS censorship under the guise of preventing gambling (Glücksspielgesetz). Yeah, it's a negative for me if my DNS is regulated here.
The entire point of the relocation was that the laws you're discussing were found not to apply.
https://www.quad9.net/privacy/compliance-and-applicable-law/
No, I did not spend extra time to click around, because I simply didn't care that much.
In any case I'm glad this doesn't fall under these shit laws (yet).
>CH is more dangerous because
Well opposed to germany we don't have a Staatstroyaner (i hope), and we don't force company's to break encryption -> tutanota
We do have gov malware, it was also legalized with BÜPF.
What I was saying is that bank secrecy in Switzerland, today, is the same as in, say, France or Germany. It means that in any of these countries the operations you mention would raise red flags immediately (in France for instance a bank must inform Tracfin about any cash transaction above 10k per month, and any other that they see as suspicious (including wire transfers, typically any above 10K that is not typical gets flagged)).
In other words, Swiss banking is not anymore the one described in movies where you could come with 1M€ in cash, open an anonymous account and be done.
Even in the past it was not that simple, but it was at least possible.
EDIT : there are also many misunderstandings regarding how some accounts work. The most typical one is the "compte à numéro", a type of account where the owner is identified with a number, instead of their name. It is seen as a way to make your account anonymous but this is not the case. The bank has the mapping of the number <-> name and they have the obligation te release it like for any other account. The difference is that this information not known outside the bank. You get account statements for the name 7636536536 and not "John Brown", same for wire transfers. It is just to protect the privacy of the account owner, not to make it anonymous.
what you say reflects what I've read in the past few years on offshore tax crimes[0][1]. the OECD white/black/grey-list regulations are in reality a way to shift power from existing jurisdictions to US.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_as_a_tax_haven
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_Islands:_Tax_Havens_a...
They are using their financial power to force other nations their way, or to apply extraterritorial jurisdiction.
For that they are using either the fact that there are foreign companies that do business on the US ground and they will be punished if their country does not follow the US decisions (EU presence in Iran is an example), or they will block their USD transactions.
The EU is to weak to be a counterweight, China is probably the real competitor. All in all, I prefer to be under US rules than China, but this is still infuriating.
Also yeah that movie thing is and was obviously wrong. But for locals there is a secrecy that you dont get anywhere nearby
But not for the EU citizens/companies with accounts in Switzerland, and several other countries in the world (including Singapore - another ex money heaven).
That's a very big generalization. Citizen's rights vary wildly across countries, both in theory and in practice.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2020/07/21/the-choice-britain...
But at their scaling, enabling TLS means a lot of additional compute power, and due to that marketing campaign they now finally got the budget to install the additional hardware and enable it. Before, there was no business value that justified to spend that much more to get an - to the outside observer - unchanged product.
So essentially every single assertion in your post is false, no? Did I miss something?
In fact, the Swiss government also bought machines from them, on a wink wink nudge nudge sort of understanding that they would get the non-compromised ones.
Now this company could still be excellent, but that would not be because it is Swiss. I have no reason to distrust their claims.
However I would like to point out that they give you censored DNS data, with supposed malware sites being removed. Be aware of this when you use them. Their web site is very up front about it.
Crypto AG is certainly an awful event but this seems like an impossible standard to hold a nation of millions to. Which country doesn't have some equivalent scandal?
https://www.manhattanda.org/our-work/signature-projects/glob...
https://quad9.net/about/sponsors/
When you are that closely connected to US and UK government, don't be surprised whan people don't trust you.
B) That's a straw-man, as we have not asked for anyone's trust; quite the opposite.
C) We serve the public, everyone. Is your argument that the US and UK governments are excluded from the definition of the whole? Or that because they, like everyone else, are members of the set of the whole, that this somehow reflects upon us?
To be honest, I can't think of a single one.
Oh wait, the NSA backdoored that random number generator. So, uh, ... I can think of two countries that had a scandal like that.
You could pin this Crypto AG thing on the BND, too, so that implicated Germany. From that angle I can think of three countries.
What others did you have in mind?
To answer your question: How about Iceland? Norway? Nigeria? Peru?
I can think of a few mid-20th century events that caused some more significant reputational hits.
Its not perfect place, but by huge margin the most free society by quite a few criteria. I've come here 11 years ago just to make quick buck and move back, then I've seen first hand how actually society works here and decided to settle here and raise my kids here. I've traveled quite a bit all around the world, and no other place compares. For somebody who can literally spin the globe and move anywhere, that's quite a recommendation if I may say so.
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They’re Russian if that matters to you one way or the other: https://adguard.com/en/our-partners.html
Edit: I made the app because I wanted a simple 30 second solution for anyone to improve their privacy without any VPN profiles and using a fast DNS. I tried a few free apps on the App Store but they didn't work well or were not updated in months. So I decided Ill make one.
I think I agree with others, seems like a publicity stunt with very little real-world impact.
Did you read the applicable law section of the privacy policy? And you honestly don't think that's better than US law?
As for it being tested, I can assure you that it's taken very seriously. One ruling that demonstrates that is [1], in which Switzerland's highest court ruled that an individual's right to privacy has higher precedence than a copyright-owner's right to police copyright infringement.
There's also a constitutional right to privacy [2], though the Swiss constitution is a little different to the American one.
One notable and enormous hole in Switzerland's record however is the BÜPF [3], which, as I understand it, requires ISPs to log DNS requests, among other things. That shouldn't be relevant here though, so long as Quad9 doesn't become a telecommunications provider.
[0]: https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/1993/1945_1945_1945/en
[1]: https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/privacy-triumphs-in-internet-pi...
It has many "ifs" but not a single "then". It's like a parent threatening a child not to do something in the hope that the child never responds with "or what?"
Authorities have issued several advisories against global actors but whether or not they decide to comply is purely based on political agenda.
In my opinion, the answer to your question (was the resilience of the Swiss data protection law tested) is no, simply because it can't be tested.
This was due to the Secret files Scandal in 1989 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_files_scandal ).
Regulators are now working on aligning the aging laws with the European GDPR to better protect individuals against private companies.
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