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It is still very early in its development stage so they do not want much liability.

Most software developers have mostly operated in largely unregulated domains, so there's a MISunderstanding of how manufacturer responsibility works in industries like automotive. Saying "I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING" in the automotive software space is the product liability equivalent of Michael Scott screaming "I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY" in The Office.

Well, their legal technique is a little more nuanced.

They are selling a product which is a legal and legitimate driver assistance tool which does not have autopilot.

You, as a user, can then modify the device by flashing unregulated code onto it to give it autopilot code, which is not advised by comma.ai *wink wink*

I expect this to end about as well as it did last time.

35 million miles is statistically meaningless.

35 million miles is more than google cars did from 2017-2020 so it’s still significant.

On public roads. We don't know how many they've done if you include closed track testing, but I'm willing to bet it's at least as many as they've done on public roads.

The real point is that Google isn't selling their system to consumers.

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Nobody ever wants any liability if they can help it. But they shouldn't be marketing a product if they can't stand behind it.

This. I could understand an early access game "it can shut down any time" but this is kind of my/family/friends lives on the line.

I remember the founder interviewed me to be CEO, when he hit the investment and publicly insulted Papa Elon for kudos and bad assness. The guy was a jerk on the phone and 10 mins in I told Him to piss off and thought to myself “wow - who would work with this guy” he’s been at it since 2016 so glad it didn’t flop, but looks like he ate his words to Papa Musk.

Nothin’ like some good old humble startup pie.

I suspect you are thinking of a different startup. We have never interviewed anyone to be CEO.

did they ever ?

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