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It's quite sad that Wire never made it mainstream and then was sold to a third party that isn't as trustworthy. They had great UX/UI both on mobile and on desktop early on. Used the same signal double ratchet and were originally owned by a Swiss entity. A real shame they didn't get the momentum they needed.

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Wire is good because it syncs conversations across devices and allows one to sign up without a phone number. But its sluggish client apps (especially on desktop, where I guess it’s an Electron app) have been a bane for a long time.

Why is signing up with a mobile number an issue? Where I live, you can buy cards freely l, so I could just use a throwaway card to sign up, and use it only when I need to sign in/restore account.

Now imagine if you could do that without having to “use a throwaway card to sign up, and use it only when I need to sign in/restore account”

In most countries (eg Europe, US, Brazil, China, etc.) it's not the case and you have to give your ID (or some sort of identifier linked to your real identity) to get a SIM card or any internet service

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