This is about the requirement to disclose how much data you are collecting and what you are doing with it that rolled out as "Privacy Nutrition Labels" in iOS 14.3 a couple of months ago.
>Apple announced Privacy Nutrition Labels at WWDC 2020. Under the scheme, developers selling apps on the App Store must explain the privacy practices of each one they sell. That means detailed information concerning what data they collect, why, and what they do with it must be provided to users in the form of what looks like a food nutrition label.
Apple has asked developers to provide this information with their app since Dec. 8; while apps already available in the store don’t have to have it, as developers roll out updates, they’ll be expected to include where data is being used and in what category (including financial and personal data).
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3600998/apples-privacy...
If you update your app, you must disclose the privacy information to users.
Google's solution to the problem has been to refuse to update their apps, and they have waited so long that they have triggered their own automated security warning.
Without these, Google only gets revenue from search on iOS. That itself is diminished because they won’t be able to later show you ads based on your search. That is why Google pushes you to sign in.
An additional problem is that search revenue from iOS devices is greater than on Android (as of a few years ago). So this, and that consumers spend most of their time on mobile, is a huge problem for Google. This is a LOT of their revenue.
Like you said, this looks like a silent war. Google can’t complain about monopoly power given that they control Android. That’s why this war is silent.
Also, this isn’t just about Google. You have Facebook, Snap, etc...
What about openstreetmap?
Somebody broke something. It's kinda funny for us and embarrassing for Google, but its not a conspiracy
Users are always signed into Facebook but they still have to disclose for instance.
notatoad said no, it's unrelated to IDFA.
You seem to agree with notatoad, saying IDFA is unrelated, other factors are what matter.
Privacy label requirements that some users may look at are one thing, but IDFA access specifically pops up a dialog that can be denied, like location access so it is way more endangered.
Standard model costs $799.
- Sent from my iPhone SE (1st generation)
Except you are out of luck when Apple decides to stop updates.
> As long as there's no major security issues and you don't feel a pressing need for hardware or software improvements not available on older models, why upgrade at all?
There are always major security issues. Look at how often they appear in browsers.
For me, these are professional tools, and reliability therefore outweighs just about everything else in my consideration of what to use. Tools that don't reliably help me complete the task at hand are the wrong tools, no matter what their other virtues, and nothing else I've tried has been more reliable in that sense than Apple hardware - granted, I haven't had as good a time with the Touch Bar-era laptops, but even they have still been head and shoulders over any past or present Windows laptop I've tried, and I'm not even going to talk about my experience with Linux on laptops because I have enough problems today without attracting a crowd of angry partisans. And from what I hear about the M1 laptops, Apple seem to have gotten their act together, in any case.
Outside work, I still need the appliances I use in daily life to be reliable. Apple's phones aren't up to the standard I prefer, but they come closer to that than anything else I've tried, so they're what I prefer in that regard too. I would like it if they seemed likely to ever again make a phone that's comfortably sized for my hands, but nobody else does either, so that's life, I guess. It's a lot of why I learned how to repair my SEs and where to get parts for them. When it's no longer tenable for whatever reason to keep using them, I'll figure out what to do next. Probably that will be a newer iPhone, because I don't think it's likely anyone else will come along to compete on the combination of compatibility, reliability, and active concern for privacy that matters most to me. I think it would be great if someone did, though.
In any case, as I think we've both said in this conversation, there are tradeoffs, and these are mine. I generally assume that other people who talk here about using an iPhone have made that decision after a process of consideration not wholly dissimilar to mine, and that anyone regularly on Hacker News probably has a good sense of alternatives given how they're regularly discussed here.
Can't argue here, Apple is indeed the only choice in such case.
> and I'm not even going to talk about my experience with Linux on laptops because I have enough problems today without attracting a crowd of angry partisans.
I bet you did not use laptops designed for Linux and instead installed it on some Lenovo. I've been having solid experience with a laptop sold with preinstalled Linux. But Apple is still probably more solid.
> I don't think it's likely anyone else will come along to compete on the combination of compatibility, reliability, and active concern for privacy that matters most to me. I think it would be great if someone did, though.
I can't say that it's already reliable, but I have big hopes for the next couple of years: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5.
Wildlife photography matters to me enough that I'd switch careers if I thought I could make it pay, which is sadly next to impossible. None of the equipment that backpack is built for does me any good if I leave it at home, and some of the best wildlife shots I've ever gotten have been on breaks at work. So a laptop has to be able to ride along, and I've never found anything but a Mac that can do so and still have a good enough spec for the work I do.
On the other hand, I expect to be taking on full-remote jobs for the foreseeable future, between my own preferences and the effect of the pandemic on the industry. So maybe I can think about going back to a satchel for carrying work equipment on the likely infrequent occasions when I need to be onsite somewhere, and that would let me relax the "thin and sturdy" requirement that's partly kept me on Macs for a while now.
I'll freely admit, there's a lot not to like about the MacOS UI. It would be nice to have a daily driver running KDE again, and not have Emacs be a second-class citizen in the windowing system.
It's 2021, servers are a fraction of the pice and vastly easier to deploy than they were in '08 when Apple needed google for these apps.
I'm not convinced we use the G-suite of products for any particularly good reason other than they have a G and they are free. For the margins and scale of ios Apple could easily provide equivalent apps in-house if customers need them to be free or let the market set the price for non-ad supported versions.
Since switching I've only used gmail and maps/waze from g-suite. I'm 90% certain I can replace maps/waze in the near future.
Pretty sure that's just crappy google quality. My 2 year old Samsung is going strong. It became marginally faster with the latest update.
Look, it might very well be a shitty phone. Just saying that after 4 years I'd cut any phone a break. Especially since phones got impractically thin, batteries have really struggled to work the way they do when they are new after a year or two.
I still miss the hardware keyboard.
Phone batteries generally lose 20% of capacity every ~500 cycles. So lumost may well have a battery with only 1/2 the original capacity or less. [1]
[1] This is for iPhone, but I imagine it's similar for all devices. https://support.apple.com/en-in/HT208387
I don't think so, Google needs to be on iPhones much more than Apple needs Google to be on iPhones. Gmail works with Mail and I don't think many people are going to switch to Android just to use a native Gmail app.
Is it impossible to do any kind of advertising without the IDFA? Or is this simply a matter of them only being able to make a smaller yet still gigantic pile of money?
Also, it allows Google to track that you've seen an ad and later bought something from the advertiser's website, so the advertiser knows what they get in return for their ad spend.
"Sharing a list of emails, advertising IDs, or other IDs with a third-party advertising network that uses that information to retarget those users in other developers’ apps or to find similar users."
When users access many types of paid subscription accounts, they are asked to confirm the login in a Google app on their mobile device. It's dangerous if vulnerabilities aren't being fixed and their servers still trust these apps to authenticate.
On another note, over the past year a few people have told me their new email addresses, then they continued using Gmail out of inertia. A significant enough problem with their aging apps could be the event that gets users to follow through and make a transition away from using Google services as a default.