Black coffee can be good for your heart, studies show
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Coffee has been a "side hobby" of mine for years. Different beans, grinders, you name it.
But now that I am older I can see how bad it is for me. My sweat smells different (as if I haven't showered in days), my jitters are increasing, I get very unfocused and aggitated and worst of all, mild panic attacks.
I spent few years thinking that something was really wrong with me until I noticed that coffee has a huge negative effect when I am on crunch time.
I started with teas, still not a fan, and decreasing coffee. Also moving to decaf, where are hard to enjoy because of taste.
Not sure if anyone is on the same boat.
"Caffeine doesn't perk you up, it just keeps you from calming down."
I feel like a little child -- the days are longer, my emotions are a lot richer, when I'm nostalgic, I remember most details, not just the "gist". I'm not mentally "spinning my wheels" and running in circles anymore. It's a little harder to bring myself to do stuff that I don't really want to do, because I'm not running around, looking for stuff to do but am intentional about what I want to be doing.
Energy is unsurprisingly much more stable, it comes from exercise and whole food.
My acne and problems with digestion disappeared.
Expect to be essentially dead for all purposes for the first 7 days.
I'd recommend taking L-Tyrosine (or NALT) during withdrawal, optionally with 5-HTP, it's a natural dopamine precursor and makes the anhedonia much shorter.
I'm 20, coming (cold turkey, usually not recommended) from 2 espressos daily.
I have a slightly different experience. I stopped having regular coffee (never had much, only a daily capuccino) about 2 years ago (improved sleep, etc). Every few months now I have a coffee, and when I do it's the best day of my life. I feel invincible, I can keep going for hours without feeling tired (I also have trouble falling asleep later :P). Maybe I'm too sensitive to caffeine, but I'm amazed at how strong the effect is (which is why I try to be careful with it).
However, my crippling anxiety is mostly gone, so that's a bonus.
What's the problem with using CO₂ extraction ?
I was always irritable, now less-so. I am not sure if that's the coffee's doing, though. A lot has changed since my nine cup a day days.
I drink 1-2 cups in the mornings only, and I haven't seen this at all. How much were you drinking?
It's hard because I also love coffee. I, like you, never had to "acquire" a taste for it- I just liked it.
I've done stints where I'd mix half-decaf and half-regular. I should probably do that again.
I also think teas are a terrible substitute. The closest I came was chicory which is .. an acquired taste.
Will typically drink 2 cups in the morning and an espresso immediately following lunch.
I’ve noticed a big difference. I rarely get jittery unless I’ve drunk no water in the morning.
Yeah i end up in the bathroom every 20 minutes, but at least this habit stops me from eating all day while working from home.
(Not GP, just sharing my experience.)
Are we sure? The standard USA measure for a cup of coffee is a 6 ounces. (Evidence: search Google on how much grounds you use per cup of coffee.)
Speaking of, how much grounds are used per cup in the research, and what kinds of grounds are used?
This has perplexed me for years, and the looseness in the three factors makes a big difference in how much caffeine or other “coffee stuff” one consumes.
When researchers say X cups of coffee, they’re entirely relying on their respondents’ personal reporting. So the answer is your best bet is to assume a cup of coffee is about what the average person would call a cup.
Yes, you are not controlling for the amount of coffee consumed. But that should cancel out in a population based study. The null hypothesis should be that humans drink coffee in a gaussian distributed way (not like with alcohol where the consumption is exponentially distributed). If you then randomly sample from that coffee drinker population (again, gaussian distributed), you can then control for variations in the coffee consumption by comparing the averages of coffee drinkers to non-drinkers.
But, yes, this does center around the hypothesis that coffee consumption is normally distributed. To confirm that I'd assume that there has been some research done on coffee consumption. Research that I have not done, to be clear. But I with no priors, I'd assume a normal distribution, because, well, darn near everything in bio is normally distributed.
I've had espressos in Colombia and Portugal that probably had more caffeine than in a mug of what Americans drink.
So volume doesn't really say much.
I didn't mean my observation as some sort of criticism. It is just an observation. Every person should just drink it how they like it.
Do we? How do Brazilians prepare a cup of coffee? Is the process different or do you just use a lot more grounds per amount of water?
> Do we?
An 'Americano' is literally watered down coffee.
Yes, I know, espresso is a kind of coffee, but it’s not what Americans are referring to as when they say “coffee”.
Do Brazilians drink what I call espresso and call it coffee?
I don't know if these things are really 'standardised' at all. Who'd have responsibility to do that?
Nutrition science (imo) is doomed if researchers don't take establishment of causal connections seriously. If they declare that they haven't causally connected drinking black coffee with reduction in heart failure, we're left with having to make a random choice between drinking coffee or not drinking coffee, ... i.e. the information is useless to us. What's the purpose of this research then?
Most Europeans are drinking espresso, I get the impression it’s not as healthy as filter drip coffee, which is somewhat rare to find.
I disagree. Any good coffee spot that doesn't have the usual coffee franchise branding can do V60 or has batch brew. You would be surprised how many smaller cities even in central/eastern Europe have lively coffee culture. Which city disappointed you?
Of course automating the parsing of thousands of papers (and ensuring the verdict is correct) is a huge task. And that's without mentioning the reliability of each study...
They have good health effects on nearly everything.
Unfortunately, their content strategy based on truth does not perform very well. More recently they have been picking fights with the pseudoscience crowd and sensationalizing worthless content which can only be a backwards indicator.
That’s a big (and healthy) drop. With high blood pressure being quite common, would you mind sharing what helped (even though I know it may not be the same for everyone and that this is not professional medical advice)?
Big caveat. I also went from doing 1 or 2 bouts of exercise a week to about 4. Exercise makes a huge difference too.
Ok so here’s what worked for me. I took things twice a day (first thing and with dinner).
Omega 3 Olive leaf extract Green coffee bean extract Magnesium Potassium Garlic Hibiscus tea (this was a tea not a pill) Also vitamin D and C (for immune not BP).
The olive leaf / green coffee bean / hibiscus are all well attested (if memory serves) as vasodilators. I think garlic too. The Magnesium and potassium also have an effect.
The Omegas were more for inflammation.
I also tried Apple cider vinegar but had no bad effect when I dropped it. Also started doing turmeric and boron but not related to blood pressure.
I joke with my doctor that to avoid taking that 1 pill I’m now taking like 20 pills. But much prefer this.
While under this regime I also got into much better shape, mostly through diet (cutting out carbs), so for me the supplements were a short term / med term thing while baseline health improved.
Final note. Genetics play a huge role in blood pressure (and have some family history) and of course your stress levels too.
Edit: just remembered, reducing my caffeine intake was also a big part of the story. 2 cups a day is now my max vs 4+ cups.
What do you mean by picking fights with the pseudoscience crowd being a backwards indicator? Of all the directions they could go to boost traffic, that seems like a benign one.
The label says
0 fat
0 trans fat
0 Saturated fat
0 carbohydrates
0 protein
0 cholesterol
0 carbohydrates but
10 calories per spoonful.
I'm making that up.. but if you sponsor a study you want your money's worth!
I think I'll try and make my heart live longer in ways that don't involve me sitting on the toilets clutching my lower abdomen.