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The framing is odd though describing it as "forced" instead of simply the school's dress code. Especially when comparing it to a case in Britain a few weeks ago where a girl was threatened [1] with legal action because her skirt was 'too long'. Or how france forces girls to remove their hijabs [2]. One can always find rhetoric to justify one's decision, what I find odd tho is how a group of people will use words like "forced" in one case but will bend over backwards to justify the same forced rulings with more euphemistic language when it's in favor of their own worldview. You'll hear "it's just the law" kind of excuses, while not realizing that their own arguments could easily be used to justify the opposing case as well.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jan/12/school-thr...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_scarf_controversy_in_F...

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I imagine this is because we are dealing with a people who feel that they are morally superior than the rest of the world due to worldly advantage and dominance.

Whether or not this school was correct in their dress code [1] is shadowed by the immediate conclusion for many that “Islam = Bad, oppressive, unfair, archaic” the moment that it ceases to be just an “internal, private belief for some” and becomes an external way of life that sovereign countries implement in their own territories. This is so even if what a country is implementing is not congruent to the tenants of Islam (see, the flogging of the Homosexuals for example).

Let them (viz. The West) tell it, the sociocultural climate of their localities are in exemplary order.

[1]: I see no issue with private institutions enforcing a dress code that makes the hijab mandatory. Non-muslim students need not attend and even to force them to wear it would obfuscate the intent of the hijab. It is far more than just a cloth that is draped over the head of any woman and its virtue is neglected so long as its wearer is void of virtue herself.

“Non-muslim students need not attend and even to force them to wear it would obfuscate the intent of the hijab.”

hear hear. now imagine the uproar if christians would have said “non christians need not attend” [insert anything].

By what logic would a person enroll their child into a private institute that enforces a non-arbitrary code that they disagree with?

I see no problem with a private Catholic school saying “If you’re not Catholic and have an issue with what we enforce here (e.g. dress codes), then you should enroll your children here.” I imagine that’s what they all would say.

If I didn’t make it clear, this applies appropriately to private institutions, meaning “you are enrolling here on your own conscious accord.”

If a person has any issues with how a private academic institute operates, then they are not mandated to attend it. Furthermore there is a difference between blatant discrimination (“No non-Christians allowed”) vs. "there is a particular culture that is being observed here; we aren’t going to bar anyone from attending this establishment, but it’s illogical to expect us to bend to your will because you are in opposition to what we practice upon you joining."

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