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This is a fair characterization, particularly for the parts of the city you were likely to see on any business trip. There’s both better and worse in other parts.

On an episode of 99pi, I heard even visiting New Yorkers are shocked.

What would your social utopia be like if most of the rest your country and most the rest of the states made homelessness a crime?

Your trying to compare apples to apples. SF is an apple, but the US is one big orange.

That was my sense as well, when I visited in 2019 for a conference.

My boss said it was like watching the walking dead with 'zombies' everywhere.

To be clear, its absolutely tragic that 'zombies' are walking around everywhere