Study finds childhood diet has lifelong impact
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Of course I prefer to binge on pizza but I’ll overeat just about anything.
I would eat until I felt sick. Sometimes I’d have a food hangover the next day.
A large bag of chips contains an average 1200 calories. Anyone can eat that in a sitting. An apple averages 93 calories, it would take you 13 to yield 1200 calories. Broccoli florets have 25 calories; meaning you'd have to consume 48. I don't believe for a second you've ever eaten 48 broccoli florets in a row.
Yes, emotional eating / stress eating is its own problem which isn't dictated by a given food, but is absolutely facilitated by food, to the extent that in absence of ultra-processed foods binge-eating is far less likely, and drastically reduced.
You’re talking about eating too many calories, I’m talking about overeating and binging. They are related, but not the same. It is absolutely binging to eat broccoli to the point where you feel sick and can’t sleep and contemplate making yourself vomit (speaking from experience here), even if calorie-wise it’s less than a donut.
Food has a different purpose in your state than enjoyment and taste. Did you have siblings that stole your food as a kid? Any ideas why the compulsion to fill your stomach to that point?
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I'm about 30 years old now and my diet is pretty much shit. It's actually kind of funny/embarrassing when my shopping cart has bags of pizza rolls and hot pockets. I take full responsibility, but I must say I'd have a much easier time if I had grown up eating healthy foods from the beginning.
Luckily, I don't overeat, so I'm skinny and somehow have good cholesterol and blood pressure, but I know this will come back to bite me at some point.
As an adult, I started discovering foods that were startlingly delicious. For example, a fully ripened pear, when all the pears I'd eaten were harder than apples. U-pick cherries in season. Strawberries that you didn't need to dip in powdered sugar. Darker and darker chocolates to the point I can't eat milk chocolate any more. The way my wife prepares salmon, simply broiled with a little salt, pepper and soy sauce is fantastic. Fast food is Chipotle, which for fast food is as fresh and healthy as you're going to get.
Make a point of exploring quality flavorful foods. It's enriching in many ways.
Yes, this is exactly what I was getting at, that it is something "difficult."
Imagine trying to convince a person from the stone age (or even the early 1900s) that an amazing plate of sauteed vegetables, rice/beans, sliced fruits, and steak/fish/chicken were something you had to force yourself to eat.
They'd probably punch you in the face.
> I'm skinny and somehow have good cholesterol and blood pressure, but I know this will come back to bite me at some point.
Yes, our bodies can tolerate almost anything in while young. But if we want to make it thru our fifties and not be miserable or dead, I urge a different tack.
I found out the hard way about the cooking part in College (ate healthy @ home but didn't care for the cooking bit, and it was considered "for girls" so my parents didn't press). Then I tons of allergy and other diet related issues after I moved out until well into my 20s.
I'm now committed to not only cooking healthy for my kids but teaching them at an appropriate age to learn how to make (and procure) the dishes as well.
The instapot helped me a lot in "grown up" meal department.
Maybe like the above poster (and myself) men learn to appreciate the benefits of cooking like lower cost, fun family activity, and usually healthier.
Really makes me regret all that young stress eating, and a crazy example of how "The body keeps the score" w/r/t early life experiences.
-Our starting point does not determine where we end up. An early lead is a big advantage but plenty of people have overcome the hand they were dealt through work and forming good habits. Being in the top quintile (at lots of things, fitness included) is not that hard once you get in the groove.
-We probably traded that early edge in fitness for some other capacity that we see ourselves as more "naturally" gifted in. Maybe you're better at abstract reasoning? Computers in general? So yeah, that negative might be balanced by a quality you developed in your early years by playing all the warcraft. Looking back I can see lots of good things in my life came from hours and hours of online gaming and forums - being fluent in English is probably one the largest (and easiest to acquire) edges I have over most Europeans and it came from umpteen late night CS sessions with Americans.
First sentence of the article: "Eating too much fat and sugar as a child can alter your microbiome for life, even if you later learn to eat healthier, a new study in mice suggests." So yes, eating bad as a kid means that you'll always be worse off and never get to where others are.
You have to pay for this cost forever. I've been going through it for 10 years now and I'd rather just not have to care about this or invest on it as much :)
Could my parents have fed me a few cheeseburgers less? Absolutely. But it's a very small tarnish all things considered.
My diet did not change, I rarely eat junk food, no sweetened drinks except tea, and I prefer vegetables over other food, and all my meals are cooked at home (no restaurant food, no pre-made food - not even cereal).
And yet, I keep gaining weight. I attribute it to eating too much of the healthy food I do eat, but I can't help it, I'm too hungry otherwise - but of course that doesn't really answer the question of why.
Oh, and if I exercise my hunger skyrockets and I gain even more.
That's pretty commonplace. But there are things happening that nobody tells you about. I can't fit into the pants I wore in my 20's anymore (not for a long time). But I don't weigh that much more. Being observant, I noticed that men over 30 simply did not have the slim hips that younger men do.
Googling it confirmed my suspicions - your hip bones grow wider as an adult, by a fair chunk.
I've also noticed my shoe size is larger as well.
Either way, you're eating more than you burn. The important part is you're aware of the issue
One good thing my parents taught me is that vegetables can be eaten without cheese or salt, and I currently eat healthier than anyone I know, and it's not a struggle at all for me.
It's just "normal" and I'm accustomed to it. I think this can still be trained as an adult, but it's probably easiest if you never have to "transition" or break out of bad habits. Wishing your family the best.
It's the same with all things in parenting: you do your best and hope they will understand you did it out of love. But there are no guarantees.
Coincidentally, what made him into a healthy eater is that he found that food with lots of sugar and fat made him feel worse. Oddly, it doesn't happen to me at all, but he grew to be sensitive to it for some reason that we never understood. But he eats extremely healthy, if not a bit bland, now -- and is a great athlete.
The evidence will come later if it hasn't already. Their behavior might be a hint. It impacts focus, brain development, everything.
Well, I can only conclude either you don't have kids, live in a very different setting, or you're some kind of super parent :-)
The main reasons are (a) the kids are highly attracted to foods that constitute a poor diet and (b) they are constantly exposed to opportunities to consume those foods.
At its peak we were taking them to 2 - 3 birthday parties a weekend at which they were presented with unlimited candy, giant pieces of cake, sugary drinks, and a humungous bag of lollies to take home. Then at school the same children bring sweets to school and hand them out to the whole class, trade things out of their lunch boxes at lunch time, etc etc. Unsurprisingly they routinely come home having eaten only a small portion of the food we gave them and tell us they "weren't very hungry".
One of the interesting revelations as a parent has been how little control you really have over what your children are exposed to and how much is dictated by the society around them.
Another thing I didn't expect is arguing with the spouse about it, who will also undermine the effort.
Notwithstanding the food-swaps at school (I think to liken this all to be candy is hyperbolic), the kids eat what you feed them for breakfast and dinner. Whether this is a battle has little to do with the nature of the food itself. I'm sure you don't believe that perpetually relenting to kids when they whine, piss and moan will make your life easier - they'll normalize the behavior to get what they want and misbehavior will be the norm. Being a parent is the battle and it doesn't end at letting kids eat candy any time they want, which makes healthy eating a moot point.
Young bodies can tolerate even crappy diets. It's a different matter when older however. If it isn't turned around by their fifties say, they'll be in for a world of hurt. That's why it habits must start young.
Might be wishful thinking since I didn't eat very well as a teenager.
Is there any evidence beyond correlation that high fat diets are unhealthy?
Also the researchers measured mice intestinal biome at 14 weeks, given that the lifespan of bacteria is probably similar whether in mice or in humans, I wonder if the comparison to human lifespan is valid, considering that a transition that takes x mice-years may only take y human-months, so to speak.
I would 100% agree that a high-sugar low-fat diet is more dangerous than eating high-fat low-sugar, but high-fat high-sugar is a hell of a lot worse than either of the other combinations - and a more common diet in the population at large. That's probably more relevant to this study, as limited as it is.
There's data pointing that Omega-6 fatty acids (primarily vegetable/seed oils and trans fats) are harmful.
See the following talk by Dr. Chris Knobbe:
You can jump here for the studies:
What kind of fats are we talking about exactly. Trans-fats? Rancid fats. Fats in cured meat? Fats from seed oils? What kind of seeds? Vegetable fats? If so again what kind? Maybe you think olive oil is okay. What if I told you 90% of olive oil is adulterated? Animal fat? What's that animal been eating?
The last one is interesting. Before WWII frozen chicken really wasn't a thing because frozen chicken tasted rancid after it was thawed. Someone figured out you could fix that by switching the feed from linseed to corn.
My mother was so into sugar and had other medical issues and had all her teeth pulled and dentures by 35. I was born into an extremely high insulin environment and was morbidly obese by 8.
I just hit my 4 year anniversary of carbohydrate recovery and I’ve made super significant change in my weight, cholesterol, A1C and tons of other unmeasurables.
That's mostly true for what the kid eats, but not really how much the kid eats. Childhood obesity is largely genetic, the correlation between an adoptee's BMI is stronger with that of their biological parents than with their host family.
Is this just careerism, needing to get published to advance a career?
At first glance this seems very obviously wrong. Can you elaborate why you think there is no value in understanding the impact of things like diet on development and beyond?