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One of the things I was hoping to see in this release was first-class LSP (language server protocol) support.

VS Code's editor is actually available as a separate NPM package as Monaco[0], which is great because it means that you can trivially get LSP support. For example:

https://sorbet.run

^ Sorbet (Ruby type checker) implements the LSP protocol and can be compiled to WASM. So by using Monaco in the browser, we get a playground that supports all the same features as you'd get in VS Code.

It's the same for the TypeScript Playground[1].

There's a lot of great work in this release of CodeMirror. I'm especially excited to see mobile support as a headline feature, because that's completely lacking in Monaco. Maybe LSP support can be a future improvement.

[0] https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/index.html

[1] https://www.typescriptlang.org/play

There's still no way to use create-react-app with monaco out of the box with offline support (@monaco-editor/react includes calls to a CDN instead of using the bundled JS).

Yes, mobile support is the Holy Grail here.

It's not just Monaco... pretty much all the available text editor components (beyond a plain raw textarea) suck bigly on mobile.

Editing structured text on a phone is always going to suck to some degree, so it's always nice to see anything that promises to make it suck less.

It might be outside the scope of CodeMirror. CodeMirror is not an IDE. Monaco is extracted from one.

VS Code is not really an IDE, either. Of course, what is an isn’t an IDE isn’t so clear-cut these days.

Was Dreamweaver an IDE?

Nope. Competition to Frontpage.

For it to be an IDE it would need to support developing Website end to end across all layers.

By the way I use present tense, as Dreamweaver is still around, https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html

....wikipedia lists DW as IDE :)

I was just joking about the debate, which is running since Macromedia’s times.

VS Code can trivially become an IDE.

I doubt it is trivial to support what QtCreator, C++ Builder, Delphi and Blend are capable in the context of putting everything into Chrome.

Running graphical tools as external processes in their own windows misses the I in IDE.

Monaco was not extracted from VS Code and predated it by many years.

What I meant was this:

"Please note that this repository contains no source code for the code editor, it only contains the scripts to package everything together and ship the monaco-editor npm module."

https://github.com/microsoft/monaco-editor

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