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China takes aim at BBC as dispute w Britain intensifies

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In the past few years, China seems to have a dispute with many countries - Australia, USA, UK, Japan, various countries in Southeast Asia, and more.

Perhaps this quote is appropriate in this situation: “If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole.”

Everyone has stopped putting up with their antics now that it's undeniable that they intend to double down rather than get better.

"Everyone" will bang their drums and probably not do anything substantial. That's why China feels okay doubling down.

The same thing happens with the US. It comes with being a powerful country. You don’t become a powerful country by making friends.

No it’s not the same by far. China is a dictatorship.

It is okay to dispute a report. More information is good.

>In the past few years, China seems to have a dispute with many countries - Australia, USA, UK, Japan, various countries in Southeast Asia, and more.

Often coming with accusations of hurting the feelings of the Chinese people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_...

Another angle to look this: many allies of US (who claims China is a major enemy) raises disputes with China.

China national here.

This is definitely not the way to look at this, every mentioned country (and many others) has very valid arguments against China.

BBC getting it from all sides these days. The left don't like them because they are seen as too soft on the Government, the right don't like them as they are seen as too PC/Woke and weren't sufficiently pro-Brexit.

If the UK is banning Chinese 'State Media', the BBC is a pretty natural target for a clap back..

Well as another user has pointed out BBC has been banned since May 2018 https://en.greatfire.org/https/www.bbc.com. I don't know why Chinese companies/media outlets expect the same freedoms as everyone else when foreign companies and media outlets have practically none in China.

Let me show you a few more GreatFire Analyzer results:

CNN: https://en.greatfire.org/https/www.cnn.com

Die Zeit: https://en.greatfire.org/https/www.zeit.de

Le Figaro: https://en.greatfire.org/https/www.lefigaro.fr

All currently accessible.

So I think you are being overconfident in your assessment of the situation for foreign media outlets in China. Some are blocked, some are not.

I also disagree with your suggestion that Chinese media shouldn't expect the same freedoms as everyone else just because China doesn't guarantee freedom of the press. There's no reason to copy them in that regard.

The BBC had never been allowed to broadcast freely or investigate freely or accessible from the Chinese side of the "internet" anyway, so who cares.

bbc.com used to be accessible until May 2018 https://en.greatfire.org/https/www.bbc.com

I wouldn't call that "never been accessible".

Ok. What's the significance of this observation? They no longer have any leverage.

This observation brings honesty back to the discussion by revealing the falsehood.

It doesn't affect the point you wanted to make, but I think it's good to point out inaccuracies even in contexts where they don't matter, since they might matter in others.

1. Is there a reason this is on HN?

2. The Reuters article doesn't seem to weigh in on the key issue of fact: whether the BBC reporting on China is accurate or is "fake news" as claimed by the Chinese officials. If the reporting is accurate, then the "fake news" criticism is unjustified.

1. Is there a reason you are in HN? 2. Are you really suggesting to believe ‘chinese officials’ in stead of BBC? 3. Oh wait...

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