I decided to start a Discord for it, it's been on my mind for a while. I'm not interested in the VC moonshot culture, and frankly am not in the location for it anyway. I also don't care for SEO marketing ploys and hustle bullshit.

The community values I would want in a community like that are:

* A focus on building products that meet real world problems

* Pragmatism, stability and longevity in your products

* Discussions about bootstrapping with real customers

* Investment can be useful but it shouldn't be a stand in for a real business model

* Realistically these are businesses, money is a real factor, but no get rich quick schemes, we're just trying to get sensibly rich slowly

* No narcissistic hustle bullshit, no marketing ploys