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> But this is also a deeper philosophical question around where things like numbers come from.

Numbers come from people looking for a way to model the world and measure things...

That doesn’t answer the question of whether the numbers exist in a separate Platonic realm. This question is as old as philosophy.

More importantly is if they are necessary to model a brain. Because then we are effectively created by them. And any psychadelic experience will therefore be inherently numerical :-)

The classic, 'Is mathematics "discovered" or "invented"'? Or even more for this crowd, were computers discovered or invented?

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