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Comment by djrogers | Hacker News Reader

Care to share any examples or references of where Apple is being dishonest here?

The Jobs quote on page 2. All iOS devices and all M1 macs maintain a persistent serial-number-linked connection to Apple at all times, even if you don't use iCloud, don't have an Apple ID, don't use FaceTime/iMessage, don't use the App Store, and have analytics turned off. No indication that this is happening is displayed, and there's no way to turn it off.

Your client IP discloses the city the device is in, and the ISP. This means that Apple has a city-level, ISP-level location tracklog of every iOS device and all M1 macs (and possibly intel macs too) by serial number.

You're not asked, you're not even told. This is the exact opposite of their headline founder quote on the first non-title page of the doc.

Again, it would be nice if you presented evidence of your claims.

It's called APNS, and the evidence is in the network traffic of every M1 mac and every iOS device. This isn't a secret, the way APNS works has been documented for years.

Would you like a pcap? I can send you a pcap.

APNS is the notification service? Notification tokens are randomly generated, and are refreshed regularly. I have heard zero suggestion anywhere that they would be used for any kind of tracking, other than routing notifications to the correct device.

>I have heard zero suggestion anywhere that they would be used for any kind of tracking Yet it could.

GP just said Apple has the info and it can't be turned off.

Which I find interesting in the context of the PDF above.

Has what info?

I would like a pcap.

Email me, I have done the testing on M1 systems recently (I bought one just for the purpose!).

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