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Highest resolution photos ever taken of snowflakes

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This was posted last month https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25414579

They must be kidding us...Alexey did it years ago

https://alexey-kljatov.pixels.com/

LOL https://www.americanforests.org/magazine/article/close-up-wi...

I guess they have a few more pixels, so they can claim the "title" :p

Also, don't shoot in yellow snow!

Amazing photos. This one can easily be a company logo - https://alexey-kljatov.pixels.com/featured/real-snowflake-20...

Using focus stacking and strobes to take high-res photos of snowflakes is nothing new. Here's a YouTube video of how to do it yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKA8Boa9hBA

Gallery of incredible snowflake photos by the same guy https://skycrystals.ca/snowflake-gallery/ (adblock stops the gallery from working for some reason)

Myhrvold is just really good at PR.

Looking at the first video link, that guy is using a telephoto/macro with a canon camera in ambient lighting conditions. Nathan has a scientific scope using a high power microscope objective, an XY stage, and lighting. The results are different. Focus stacking improves depth of field. But if you're aligning the flakes perpindicular to the optical axis, flat, then it makes more sense to just select the appropriate objective and lighting for the DOF you want, and scan the XY with a very high resolution objective to get the 2D details of flat flakes.

Big difference (I do both, but not on snowflakes).

Agree he's good at PR.

I don't see any links to high res photos. Are they available?

"Art starts at $850"

My favorite line of the article:

> Every single part of his Frankenstein-esque device, which stands at about five feet in height off the ground when placed on a table, was built using materials that are less likely to cause melting or sublimation of the subject matter.

I'm seven and a half feet tall when I stand on a chair.

It seems no one is game to comment on the fact that it is not his idea on the comment page for fear of being sued.

This truly isn't new; I've seen coffee table books from the 80s that used similar techniques for the photographs. This is a strangely credulous article.

> Nathan Myhrvold

Another puff piece for the patent troll king!

I love that he does all these random innovations. I hope he gets into dirigibles

They aren't random. He's a gigantic patent troll and has a strong vested interest in maintaining the appearance of being a quirky inventor.

I suppose he genuinely is one, to a degree, but the fact that he made a killing by squeezing actual innovators en masse robs the situation of most of its charm.

A few articles that came up in google:

https://psmag.com/magazine/a-patent-boogieman-with-the-poten...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2018/06/01/after-10...

If you're not familiar with him, Nathan Myhrvold is the (in)famous patent troll behind Intellectual Ventures:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures

> Intellectual Ventures ... has been described as the country's largest and most notorious patent trolling company, the ultimate patent troll, and the most hated company in tech.

Apologies if this is too tangential, but does anyone know where I can find a good explanation of why patent "trolling" is seen as worse than any other kind of IP enforcement?

TL;DR:

My (perhaps wrong) view is that people are misdirecting their anger; that the real target should be governments' loose standards for what's patentable, and for the breadth of some of the patents they issue. But given that people don't show equal outrage for copyright / trademark litigation, I suspect I'm genuinely missing something.

> Apologies if this is too tangential, but does anyone know where I can find a good explanation of why patent "trolling" is seen as worse than any other kind of IP enforcement?

- IP enforcement

I invent a new drug. I spent a lot of money to develop it, so I want to be able to exclusively sell it to recoup my investment. If someone reverse-engineers my drug and tries to undercut me before the patent expires, I enforce my IP.

- IP trolling

I invent nothing, I manufacture nothing. Instead, I have legal expertise and I plan to make money 100% through the legal system. So, I buy tons of IP from companies and individuals willing to sell them - the more generic, the better. I then troll around looking for companies that make products that might fit some of the patents I just bought. I legally shake down the companies for violating my patents and settle for a fat sum before resuming trolling for more victims.

> So, I buy tons of IP from companies and individuals willing to sell them - the more generic, the better. I then troll around looking for companies that make products that might fit some of the patents I just bought.

That fits my understanding of patent trolls' behavior. What I still don't understand is, why is this seen as worse than e.g. a streaming service like Funimation/Sony buying up exclusive rights to anime that other entities have created, and then Funimation/Sony sues other website that continue to stream those videos?

My best guess is that because the USPTO has issued patents that seem unjustifiably broad/vague, it's harder to be certain that you're not violating some patent, than to be sure that you're not violating someone's copyright. But if that's really the reason, it still seems to me like the real villain here is the USPTO / U.S. Congress. Because (to my current way of thinking), they created the business landscape that rewards this kind of behavior.

But the trolls and the government aren't two separate, independent groups. Whenever the patent office tries to tighten things up, the trolls go out and buy enough congresspeople to let them do business as usual. Successful business people have the power to get Congress to make things even better for them.

Legal != moral

Just because you can exploit the system doesn't mean you should.

Patent trolls are exploiting a bug in the patent system. They don't buy patents that are actually novel and useful; those are too expensive. Instead, they buy 100s or 1000s of patents that are vague and/or obvious. These are cheap to buy because they don't have much of any value on their own. They bundle dozens of these together, find lists of companies somewhat related and send demand letters to all of them. Simply defending the lawsuit will cost more than they're asking for in the demand letter, so many companies just settle and write a check.

Patent trolls buy politicians and judges to make their trolling profitable.

Patents were originally intended to give inventors a period of ownership over their ideas to ensure new inventions were available for everyone to use and build upon, and not hidden behind factory walls. The goal was to increase the rate of inventions and benefit everyone.

But today the most obvious ideas can be patented by people who don’t ever intend to use them to make anything, and don’t even build a prototype to establish the idea works. Instead they patent merely to shake down many who developed the same idea independently, and actually made it useful by investing and risking their own time and money.

So we ended up with a system that actually penalizes the real developers of new inventions, and essentially rewards lawyers.

Is this also the guy behind Modernist Cuisine?

Yes.

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