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Here's the archived page if anyone else is getting a 503 error. https://web.archive.org/web/20210122161324/https://bloodknif...

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thanks for this! it's my site (I also wrote the piece) and unfortunately it seems like my hosting and/or config is struggling to keep up.

Thanks for writing this. I remember getting into Banks only a couple of years before his passing, so I'm really grateful for the people who have kept going with critical thought regarding his work and who he was.

Thanks for reading! He's far and away my favorite author, and I'm happy so many people on here love his writing as much as I do.

(And I agree with people's comments that how much of a utopia it really is is up for debate, especially if you don't agree with Banks's views on economics & society. But to me his own personal intent was very clear.)

A picky correction: the Culture has both Orbitals and Rings, and defines them differently, but you're treating them as one. Quoting myself from a year ago [1]:

> Orbitals, while enormous (greater surface area than earth), are much smaller. The Culture novels do have Ringworld-sized rings as well, though. E.g. from Consider Phlebas, flying under the orbital Vavatch: "It was like flying upside-down over a planet made of metal; and of all the sights the galaxy held which were the result of conscious effort, it was one bested for what the Culture would call gawp value only by a big Ring, or a Sphere."

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22144228

I thought Orbitals were Dyson spheres. What are they?

Banks' "Orbitals" are smaller rings, perhaps planet-diameter, orbiting at a distance from their star; "Rings" are Niven-Ringworld-style structures with a star in the middle. Spheres are mentioned here and there, I think, just called "spheres".

They are Rings but smaller. Culture Rings are like Niven's Ringworld, and go all the way around a star, spinning around the star to simulate gravity. Culture orbitals are also ring-shaped and spinning to simulate gravity, but they're nowhere near as big (relatively speaking; still more surface area than Earth), and generally orbit a star more like a planet does. Culture Spheres are Dyson spheres.

I don't think the Culture builds rings or spheres themselves, but they exist and they are aware of them. There are civilizations in the galaxy considerably more advanced than the Culture.

I believe the Culture is credited as having creating the ring in Consider Phlebas.

Do you mean Vavatch, that was scheduled for destruction? That was Culture, but an Orbital.

Vavatch was destroyed by a militarised Culture GSV but it wasn't "owned" by the Culture.

Vavatch was, IIRC (I'd have to search through) built by Culture, but since then ceded, similarly the ships that helped evacuate it

The size of an Orbital is dictated by day length and surface "gravity" - they are arguably more elegant than Niven style Rings which need a lot of extra stuff to generate day/night cycles (shadow squares?).

Yes. One book (The Player of Games?) gave enough numbers for me to do the calculations, and it matched about 24h and 1g.

Good catch, thank you!

I'll contribute a picky correction too:

> Musk by naming SpaceX rockets after Banks’s tongue-in-cheek Culture ships (“Just Read The Instructions,” “Of Course I Still Love You”)

Those are not the names of the rockets, but the ocean barges on which the rockets land.

Just to add to this, they have those names due to their autonomous nature, much like the culture ships. I imagine Musk has the idea of a fleet of autonomous ships moving as required to collect rockets unable to make landfall.

I really hope the first ship to land on Mars is "The Ends of Invention".

In 2016 Musk did say "the first ship that goes to Mars, my current favourite is Heart of Gold, from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ... I like the infinite improbability drive"[0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp13ztMhwGU

Here's the whole list of culture ship names per novel -- share and enjoy!

https://theculture.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_spacecraft

>Legacy: The autonomous spaceport drone ships Of Course I Still Love You, Just Read the Instructions 1 & 2, operated by SpaceX, were named after General Contact Units mentioned in The Player of Games, as a posthumous homage to Banks by Elon Musk.[11] The construction of a fourth drone ship, named A Shortfall of Gravitas, was announced by Elon Musk via Twitter on February 12, 2018.[12] It is named after the Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Shortfall, a ship mentioned in Look to Windward and Matter as a GSV and GCU respectively.

Thanks, I'll correct this in the article. Appreciate it!

I would say that is a major factual error in the article.

Although the barges are less glamorous than rocket stages, they are reused more times, and so are more permanent a tribute.

I enjoyed reading this, but what is the reason for the big orange boxes that quote from later in the article? I see other publications do this and always found it distracting. Is there a reason for it, is it for the benefit of modern internet users with poor attention skills?

In magazines the original intent was to catch the attention of people scanning through an issue, just flipping through - they might turn a page and suddenly see a big quote in large text that caches their interest, and so they will stop and read the article. I admit I don't know how useful it is on a website and I thought a bit about whether to include it - ultimately I left it becuse it felt "magazine-y" and part of the goal was for the site to feel more like a magazine, with issues, and less like a blog that scrolls endlessly. But I admit it is mostly an affectation that may not serve any real purpose.

Thanks for reading btw!

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