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vaccines do cause autism, as do regular infections and other forms of stress. these things also cause chronic fatigue syndrome, and the two are intimately related. these diseases and many other well known diseases are all basically the same disease and they will be resolved in what will be known as the "metabolic revolution" in medicine.

the reason why the studies done so far have not been able to find a link between vaccines and autism is that they do not take into consideration that other things also cause autism. even though there is a connection between vaccines and autism, vaccines save too many lives for any rational person to want to stop their administration.

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> they do not take into consideration that other things also cause autism

Fortunately, we have figured out how to tease out the influence of a single variable among many: test vs. control groups. If the sample size is large enough, most variables will average out to have the same effect in both groups.

there has not been a single randomized large scale study on any vaccine that investigates its relationship to autism. without that, the bars are too big. and the relationship is extremely tiny. from a practical perspective, it isnt even worth going after. the studies that have been done so far prove that it wouldnt be worth it to stop vaccinations, not even close. but they dont definitively disprove a connection. they only disprove a meaningful connection.

I saw a funny facebook group that convinced me that people whose children's lives were ruined by vaccines are dumb. And not just dumb but very dumb. Because if it's SCIENCE you have to believe it. Never mind the countless examples where the science is political and motivated by money.

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.

Let me get this straight - are you saying “vaccines cause autism, we just don’t have the proof yet”?

lmfao

Not sure why you are downvoted.

Maybe because your comment is not the assuring "vaccines don't cause autism" and people already chose the assuring narative.

Vaccines do cause a lot of bad stuff, however for mass population it makes sense to vaccinate, as the benefits outweight the drawbacks.

How about the “are all basically the same disease and they will be resolved in what will be known as the "metabolic revolution" in medicine” part?

If that’s not snake oil I don’t know what is.

i think usually snake oil is something you pay money for. in this case, im just expressing my opinion which is that there is a very significant medical breakthrough in the pipes and that it is best summarized as a "metabolic revolution." this is because it has to do with metabolic dysfunction and the pathologies that are caused by it. the connection between inflammation and metabolism is a very exciting area of research. PERK and eif2a are a good example.

Medicine has gone through numerous revolutions. Not asserting the truth or falsity of the comment above, but it's not unreasonable to think we're missing large pieces of the puzzle. I'm reliably informed that a similar revolution is happening right now with immunology.

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