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The stats looks stable and consistent with common knowledge -- HGST > WD >> Seagate, Toshiba inconclusive.

Do anyone have anecdata on Toshiba MD/MG/MN 7K2 drives(excluding DT because those are HGST OEMs)? They are always less price competitive and thus always light on real-world stories though they seem comparably reliable as HGST.

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Following Blackblaze report on them a few years ago "they appear to be great, but we buy in bulk and there is not enough volume of them there for us", I decided to use Toshiba drives almost exclusively, as a sort of fun experiment.

Drives deployed below 400, usage exclusively NAS (raid 1, raid10 and raid 6) inside below 50 employees companies. They appear to be insanely reliable and high performers, to the point the +15% price tax for them in french store seems highly justified for me.

Purely anecdotal results, of course.

Unsure about the >> Seagate in there, that info is over a a decade old now(?). It's worth pointing out they have a 12% failure rate on their highest density units but the other ones seem to do well outside of a DC environment.

HGST is sadly just WD now.

And Audi is just Volkswagen. Except it isn’t (Audi tech shows up on VW when it reaches economies of scale, eg DSG gearboxes ~12 years ago)

Is HGST still a separate department or “just” their luxury brand now?

It's still a separate factory making separate drives. This line even uses a different storage controller. But this is also true for luxury ranges, in general, so you may be asking for too fine of a distinction. (Their usual luxury range is the WD Red, however.)

A luxury range where they occasionally sneak shingled drives in without telling you https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/14/wd-red-nas-drives-shin...

Which is why I asked. That sounds like the sort of thing that happens when it's just a label instead of a division.

I dont think that is the case, as in they are not mixed up in production and sold with different Brand.

They try to get rid of the HGST brand but failed. And had to go back to HGST branding specifically for HDD coming from the acquired HGST Factory.

i.e AFAIK HGST is still HGST.

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