Central Banks and Disintermediation
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Removing banks, and giving all this power to the central government, amounts (in my view, at least) to a form of central planning.
There's a good talk about this, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzE038REw2k
The author of this article seems to espouse the "financial intermediation" view of banking. But, as Werner notes, this theory has been rejected (on empirical evidence; although, I haven't read the paper he cites in his talk).
If you remove the banks and the government lends indiscriminately or with an agenda with no market interest, that's instantly a broken system for malinvestment and corruption.
And the more centralised the banking system is, the weirder the incentives become / banks are somewhat decoupled from the incentive to lend to credit-worthy / promising businesses (like here in the UK).
https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/centre-launch...
this one is only "micro credit" but its pretty "indiscriminate" in a sense that the poorest of roadside street vendors/hawkers who "do not" have a credit score even are getting a loan.
https://www.financialexpress.com/industry/banking-finance/ps...
this one, everyone, like every business owner using a credit line or similar products from banks were given additional 20%, no checks, no nothing. take it.
while the second one is in somewhat organized sector because those are already bank customers, the first article, these people will have a lot of default because people see this as free money, not a "loan" and guess who will bear the expense. taxpayers.
The problems start when the loans approach a lifetime of after-tax inflation-adjusted earnings. Then, there is no margin for error and the margin is padded with asset inflation/bubbles.
the thing is, i deal with asmall businesses all day, its my job but i have seen something like 90% drop in sales, many businesses folded and bank loans continued because credit sales arent getting paid and expectation is if i continue selling, some revenue will pass.
8 million people.
i personally dont own a credit card, dont have any loans and as a result, my income is spent on food, electricity and office staff salary, rent. i cannot imagine taking on a loan and repaying it back in these uncertain times but my clients are and its very difficult for the whole system.
i have a teacher relative who in his 50s has taken huge loans because he had no house for his family. today his salary is going to 60% bank, 30% school fees of children and rest is used at home. i can only imagine if he is let go or something happened to him. sad state of affairs
A good story would be "I have seen a 90% increase in sales," then it would make sense for you to borrow money from a bank to expand your business because something seems to be working well.
A bad story is "I have seen something like 90% drop in sales" and now you need a loan in order to delay bankruptcy in the hopes that sales will pick up before you can't afford your next bill or loan payment and default on a financial obligation. It is difficult to work out what the best solution is in this situation, often the answer is just to fold the business instead of taking on a personal liability as the owner of the business that could wipe out your personal savings along with a potentially already doomed business.
You see, the bank most strongly wants to lend money to people or businesses who are in the least need a loan. Put another way, the more desperate you are for money, the more reluctant anyone is to lending you that money. This is a fact of nature, no "app" can solve this problem.
I am sorry that you and 8 million other Kashmiris are struggling so badly. It is a humanitarian tragedy that doesn't get any attention due to the geopolitics of the situation, COVID, and the right wing nationalist tendencies of the current Indian administration.
Granted it was usually for weeks at end with respites and all but the fact remains I live in a very uncertain place.
Funny that you mention banks lending to those who dont need it. I have a client who is paying a 20% interest on a mortgage backed loan. Mind=blown. Why? Because the particular bank has made it easy to get a loan, you call them and they give you the money in a couple of hours. That is a selling point here, not total interest outlay or processing fees.
Yes. You are right. Businesses do take a loan to delay "folding" in hopes of better days. Its just really bad. For me, the issue is my clients get more sales, that is more fees for me. Once that falls, it affects my bottom line directly and the stuff follows down. Sad
The multiplier effect comes about because after the loan the bank's debtors obviously have money, but also the depositors treat their (loaned out!) deposits as if they were money. (And the depositors usually don't take out the loans as cash, but as deposits with some bank or another.)
There's some complications with regulation, central bank reserves etc. But fundamentally, banks lend out deposits.
If the inter-bank system doesn't have spare reserves, the interest rate goes up. If the central bank doesn't want the interest rate to go up, it will add reserves to the system, independently of the quantity of deposits in the system.
For instance, the reason the interest rate is so low now in most of the world, it's not because there are a lot of deposits, but because there are a lot of reserves coming from the central banks.
'Banks lend out deposits' is a useful approximation, and more true than its opposite.
To be more complete:
In the absence of legal requirement, yes, a bank could just create a deposit and a loan out of thin air. That's basically how all loans work in the first place:
When Alice gets a loan from ACME bank, roughly the following happens: the bank adds one million dollars to Alice's current account, and also adds an entry to their books that Alice owes them one million dollars.
So far so good, and no new deposits required, or any kind of funding at all, really.
If that was all that was happening, the bank would sit there and happily collect the interest differential between the loan and the current account.
And in this version of the world, you are right: the only thing keeping the bank from creating endless loans would be legal requirements.
Alas, our bank's life ain't so easy.
Alice won't just let the money he borrowed sit in her bank account. She will spend it.
Assume she spends it via a bank transfer to Bob who has an account with a Badger bank.
Unlike Alice or even Bob, Badger won't settle for just an entry in ACME's books. They demand reserves in interbank settling.
(Similar logic applies when Alice withdraws cash.)
The bank can get reserves from their own equity, or via loans (ie deposits, the interbank system, issuing bonds, etc).
Usually banks have a bit of a cushion, so on the margin they can make a few extra loans first, and look for extra funding afterwards.
This story from the perspective of a single bank does not change when a central bank messes with the amount of total reserves. The bank will still have to acquire reserves to fund lending.
(For the sake of our explanation, we need to differentiate between the central bank adding reserves via eg open market purchases of assets, and the central bank directly lending to banks.
For the former, really nothing changes from the bank's point of view: in order to sell a T-bill to the Fed, they first need to have a T-Bill already on their balance sheet and that assets needs to be funded by liability of either equity or loans, ie deposits in the wider sense.
For the latter, things get a bit more complicated from the bank's point of view.
However, from a perspective of the system as a whole, it doesn't matter too much how the Fed injects extra resources.
And yes, legal reserve requirements are sometimes a binding constraint. Then your original story is all there is to it. But that's a rather special and pathological situation.
For historic comparison, in the heyday of Scottish banking around the time of the Industrial Revolution, banks usually ran with about 2% reserves but about 30% capital. Neither of which was mandated by law, but emerged in competition.
Crucially, Scottish banks were allowed to print their own bank notes, so a customer withdrawing cash didn't affect a bank's reserves. Unless they asked for gold coins, which famously almost no-one ever did in Scotland at the time.
No one was forced to accept a bank's notes, but competitors readily took them at face value, and presented them in interbank settling to get reserves.)
"banks have reserves" -> "banks lend the reserves that they have"
instead of:
"banks lend when make business sense" -> "then they search for reserves"
If a bank can do the second option, it doesn't make sense to say that a bank is lending deposits. In fact, saying that is mudding the issue.
There is an empirical way to know: going to a credit department in a bank, ask the person in charge if they know how much they can lend or only in what conditions they can lend. I have heard from several sources that it's the second.
Here is an interesting paper about the issue:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S105752191...
As a simple analogy: on a basic level, I eat what I buy in the grocery store.
And with more details: I keep some food in the fridge. I always just eat when it makes business sense to do so. But when my fridge is running low, I get more food from the grocery store.
You eat your food (lend), check if you have enough food in your fridge and if you don't you go to the grocery store and get more. Never mind how much food you eat, for the purposes of your fridge, the grocery store has an infinite supply.
So, independently of how much you eat, you can always fill your fridge. You don't stop eating because you are afraid you can't fill the fridge again.
Similar for a bank. If deposits or interbank funds become to hard to come by, they'll curtail lending.
In any case, it seems like we mostly agree on what's actually happening.
(Though just to make sure, do you understand and/or agree on the scenario where there are no legal reserve requirements?)
Our main difference is in whether we treat 'banks lend deposits' as a valid description.
Btw, you are right that strictly speaking banks don't have to have reserves on hand in the logical second when they make the loan. But they do almost immediately need the reserves (eg deposits) when the debtor starts spending.
It is highly debatable whether the the elected government is a better planner than the appointed bankers. At least the handing out of the money would be more transparent.
The one in my country of residence doesn't.
In any case, it's not black and white. Just because there is one target doesn't mean you live the Soviet Union.
There are lots of shades.
The Fed, like many other central banks, have an inflation target. Thanks to TIPS spreads, they get a market forecast of inflation.
Thus the Fed could just buy and sell treasuries in the open market until the TIPS spread is at their inflation target.
As a by-product those open market transactions will increase or decrease the quantity of reserves. Without any need for the Fed to even think about interest rates.
Practical example next: Singapore's central bank also cares about inflation. Instead of mucking around with interest rates on bonds, they muck around with foreign exchange rates by buying and selling forex on the open market.
Interest rates on government debt are left to the market. (Just like in the Fed system, foreign exchange rates are left to the market.)
For a big country, directly buying and selling forex might be seen as 'evil currency manipulation'. But the system would be just as workable if they used eg a basket of commodities or even some broad ETFs instead.
(Historically, a basket consisting of a single commodity, gold, used to be rather popular. But that's a different story.)
But changing the interest rate in the process.
You are implying that the TIPS spread is a better indicator of inflation that the interest rate. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. More important, doesn't make sense to the central bankers, because they target the interest rate not the TIPS spread.
(Other indicators the Fed uses include internal forecasts.)
Nobody thinks that interest rates are a good indicator of inflation. Certainly no one at the Fed. Or, what do you mean by 'indicator'?
The Fed wants to keep the price level on a stable trajectory, and they use an interest rate target as an intermediate instrument to do so.
An instrument is a very different concept from an indicator, in my understanding. It's like the accelerator pedal vs the speedometer. Do you use the two terms in a different way?
> But changing the interest rate in the process.
Yes, but as a side effect. Just like the Fed actions also influence the exchange rate or the price of gold, but neither of the two is their target nor instrument.
You are right there.
>>"The Fed wants to keep the price level on a stable trajectory, and they use an interest rate target as an intermediate instrument to do so."
Yes, they use it like the main instrument to do so. And that's the reason why they can't just allow the interest rate to float freely. And because they can't allow the interest rate to float freely they have to add reserves when the inter-bank market is going up. So, reserves will be added to the system when banks need them.
Causality: banks lend -> reserves are added
They can easily choose to let interest rates float freely.
Of course, even if they directed targeted eg the TIPS spread without worrying about interest rates, in the end they would still add reserves when banks lend. (Ceteris paribus.)
Sorry but what? Before the internet you went to a travel agent. Now you go to... expedia (a travel agent). The only difference between then and now is your human travel agent has been replaced by an algorithm designed to efficiently fleece you.
This isn't disintermediation. There is intermediation of 500 silicon valley engineers between you and your flight instead of 1 local travel agent.
Naturally this is A16Z's business model, go from a state where 100,000 travel agents are getting $50,000 a year for sales and move to a state where their start up is making $5Bn a year capturing that same value.
What's bizarre though, is A16Z trying to explain to you that actually that $5Bn they're trying to capture actually doesn't exist. Expedia isn't a middle man making money, no according to A16Z there's no longer a middle man. Pay no attention to the $20Bn market cap.
Computers can help bring down costs. Competition can help force companies to pass on those savings.
(Though even in the absence of competition, there is some incentive to lower prices in order to increase volume. But it's much weaker. See eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_profit)
What is moral and also efficient and kind is not standing in the way of him finding another occupation - to remove all regulation that hinders someone from providing value
That's where the consumer surplus and company profit come from.
Second: freeing up the work of 99,500 people would be awesome! You know that nearly everyone used to be a farmer back in the day? Surprisingly, the world today is not made up of 70%+ unemployed farmers?
When I book a flight ticket, I go to the airline directly, which is true for more or less all people I know. For me this will typically be KLM, AirFrance, or SAS. These companies are Dutch, French, and Swedish.
There are no "500 silicon valley engineers" between me and them.
The world is bigger than your little world. I didn't even know what Expedia was until I looked it up.
I'm not sure I understand why the USA can't do this, to solve the first problem listed (paying people directly). I'm not sure it requires government intervention to solve the other problems (instant payments from one person to another are common outside the USA, for example). What other advantages does SSN-as-bank-account have?
Do most people in the US not do this when they file their taxes?
Do businesses not have the ability to do this like people do?
I mean, I know a lot of people in the US don't have bank accounts, so the only way for the government to send them money is via a check in the mail. This should (hopefully) be the exception and not the standard procedure.
OP seems to be proposing a redesign of the US Treasuries market that amounts to eliminating the primary dealer system and replacing it with ... an "app"? It's not necessarily a bad idea, it's just completely devoid of any alternative proposal, let alone actual details. And as they say, the devil is in the details. I guess that's the norm in the VC world, float a rough sketch of a very vague idea that sounds lucrative and hope that someone comes to them with an idea that fills in an actual proposal and enough details for them to be willing to take a real bet on a real idea. It's a mix of PR and blue sky thinking, I suppose.
And for retail loans, interest wouldn’t be cheaper if the Fed gave bank loans, because interest on bank loans is based on rates of default and a bank’s lending history. It’s not just some rent seeking fee on top of the federal funds rate. Turning the Fed into the only retail bank would reduce options for lending and the availability of credit.
Translation: want to access your money? be careful of what you say or we'll deprive you of access to your money. We own and control "your" mobile access point, so wise up.
For comparison, the Danish government - in no way a fast mover - introduced a similar scheme, “Nemkonto” (Easy account), by legislation in 2003.
Building it from bottom up it's difficult because it means a private company who deals directly with government, and it manages all they money.
the basic "innovation" is the ability to coerce the masses by threatening to destroy money if not spent in accordance with central planners....here's $5k, spend it by Friday or its gone
It'd be nice if you could for instance use notaries to tie your SSN to a coin wallet, then have a way to regain lost keys/passwords, and if they had some fraud protection (ability to rollback transactions without fees), or insurance at the least.
The government I think has too many special interests, but syndicalists/unionists working in tandem across country-lines could create a global currency without govt control.
I've thought a lot about this, researching different technologies on bitcoin. I'm no expert in crypto by far, but what I envision would be hard - with current chains being built as far as I can tell.
Maybe in 5-10 years though.