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India is a huge market and there's a lot of people in India.

Isn't there a `made in India` alternative trying to get into that ?

> Penetration of Signal in real world is way too different from what it "feels" here on HN.

No, it's not that clear cut.

My only tech friend in my peer group is the one reluctantly moving to Signal while his SO and 20 of his SO's friends are moving to Signal. (sidenote: I asked about Telegram and the consensus seems to be "yeah but it's the united arab eminates, right ? no.")

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> Isn't there a `made in India` alternative trying to get into that ?

Ok here's my proposed solution: 1. Be Indian 2. Create rebranded fork of Signal 3. Give it an Indian name and call it "Made in India" 4. ??? 5. Profit

> Isn't there a `made in India` alternative trying to get into that ?

All the alternatives I know are backed by for-profit corporations. So privacy concerns still remain. Few notable ones I came across are/were:

Hike (was shutdown last week) JioChat ShareChat

Although I advocate Signal over Telegram, it's funny when people equate Telegram to UAE when their tech team is in London, while they are only based in the Emirate for zero taxation.

Isn’t Signal run by some guy named Moxie Marlinspike who likes to be very secretive to supposedly protect his privacy? Signal is much more suspicious, IMO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie_Marlinspike#Biography

The CEO for a privacy-focused messaging app wanting to protect his privacy is suspicious...?

The leader of an organization that has a large impact on society, and potentially will have a very large impact on society and the world, being secretive is concerning and suspicious, yes.

Edit: Why? Because the public should know the people who have significant amount of influence in society.

Again, why?

This won't ever get anywhere.

The public doesn't know about Diffie Hellman or Brian Acton or Mike Schroepfer or Alex Halderman and yet here we are.

What else do you need to know about Moxie Marlinspike or Matthew Hodgson and Amandine Le Pape beyond their technical blogs, opinion blogs and conference appearances and the products they put out there ? To decide what ? What does it change regarding their work being done in the open ?

If you suspect them of something there's nothing in the world that they could say or put out that would convince you they aren't... what ? Why is being secretive suspicious and concerning ? What are you suspecting ? You already know more about their name and what they do and think that people who worked on covid vaccines and that has a significant amount of influence and society.

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