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I believe in the end of the day, it will be directly or indirectly forced. Like, people who were not vaccinated will be fined, or later, detained if they are caught leaving their homes. I just see no other way around it, or pandemic never stops in most countries.

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Not sure where you're from, but most Western countries have no legal basis to detain people leaving their homes just because they're not vaccinated. There might be some restrictions like air travel though.

even though I agree with you, The government has no business in saying who and how many people I invite to my home, or either who i meet in the Park. And here we are.

There's an issue here in defining how long a state of emergency can last. For most people, a few days (as for a natural disaster) is perfectly reasonable, and years on end is obvious abuse of power. We're just in between at the moment.

there will be a point where these concerns will have to be thrown out of the window. or the epidemic will just be endless.

"These concerns" are what we call Fundamental rights. I don't think we should throw them out of the window.

Considering i haven't seen my parents in 10 months its safe to say we already have.

it will work easily: nations that do it first, will be so rapidly outcompeting others, in a few years everyone will see there is no choice.

Sorry, you mean nations that kill democracy are going to out compete the others?

There are "others"?

Yes, Hungary will introduce "vaccine passport" (vakcinaútlevél) cards to be exempt from curfew for example.

that would just make sense or be fair if everyone get access to the vaccine before those passports are enforced. Otherwise the 80+ years old people are going to have a lot of fun in an empty world :)

It's mostly at the rumor level, but this concept seems to be supported by decision makers so far. AFAIK no decision or timeline yet.

yes, well in Germany, the Federal Minister of Health said that "Vaccine won't be mandatory" but there were already some decisions to fire/punish employees (i.e Nurses and Soldiers) that refused to take the vaccine. That's remember me the famous saying: "Nobody has any intention of building a wall" (Walter Ulbricht)

References:

https://www.merkur.de/welt/coronavirus-impfung-impfpflicht-c...

https://footage-berlin.com/en/nobody-has-any-intention-of-bu...

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