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After 10-ish years of using G Suite for my corp email, I finally switched last year when they started rewriting URLs in my emails to the google redirector, breaking PGP signatures and the like, even via IMAP. The only way to get my original unmodified emails is via Takeout now.

The situation is getting worse, not better. :(

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Either you had the Advanced Protection enabled, or your G Suite admin must have turned on the link munging:

https://hackaday.com/2020/10/21/google-meddling-with-urls-in...

FWIW, Microsoft have had a similar feature long before Google:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/security/offi...

Anyone who uses G Suite for anything remotely important should have Advanced Protection on at all times for everyone in their organization.

I don't use Google Accounts without it. TOTP codes are vulnerable to phishing, and SIM swapping is very much a thing.

What did you switch to?

ProtonMail, but I hate their lack of native IMAP. I will switch again soon to running my own mail server.

Migadu and Fastmail are good alternatives in case hosting your own is too much effort. I got bitten by the same issue with the lack of IMAP when moving to Tutanota, another secure email provider.

I run my personal email on Fastmail, but I don't like the idea of them being compelled to turn over my entire mailspool on demand to intelligence agencies without a warrant, so I'll go back to hosting my own, as I did for 20 years before Fastmail. :/

That is one of the reasons I switched to Migadu. The other being cost, as I have several domains that receive very little mail, so the cost structure on Migadu is very attractive.

Just get a small hosting package from Hetzner. 3 Euro/month and you are done. Comes with a free tld, too.

Isn't Hetzner heavy blocked by the large mail providers? I had similar issues with Digital Ocean, AWS, Linode etc when trying to self host. Even tried smarthosting via SES and that still made my very small volume of emails land in spam folders.

Hm, not sure, haven't heard anything like that. Try netcup.de. I'm with them and I'm happy, mail also works without problems.

In fact, they provide an imap bridge for paid customers.

I know, I use it (and have recompiled it to patch out the mangling of incoming PGP messages).

I don't like that they don't have native IMAP.

They broke IMAP? How so? I never noticed that something doesn't work. How exactly did they break it?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24818024

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/10173182

It's on (and can't be disabled) if you have the Advanced Protection Program enabled.

Started around three months ago.

Hilariously, they warn you when doing the Takeout export that because you have APP enabled, your export may take weeks or even months to be generated.

https://s.sneak.berlin/@sneak/105599881937545540

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