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The world must not accept the jailing of Alexei Navalny

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The world will therefore...what? Respond as forcefully as it has to the murder of quite a few journalists? Respond as forcefully as it has to the invasion of the Ukraine?

I hope that Navalny will be freed, but the world's response so far is not encouraging.

Same for journalist the otherside is jailing. E.g. Julian Assange.

Yeah, let's bomb yet another counter into middle ages/s

Cirtainly respond less forcefuly than to the illegal invasion of Iraq, illegal bombing of Yugoslavia, destruction of Lybia, genocide in Yemen, dozens of other wars and government coups.

If Alexei can accept that Crimea legitimately belongs to Russia now. I guess I can accept that he's been jailed for breaking the local laws of this same russia.

It takes a careful orchestration to avoid risks of panic yet convince enough capable towards change. A good example was recently shown with sanctioning of some military-related companies, like VSMPO Avisma and Irkut. Pretty good aim; but then Avisma's sanctions were lifted. Looks like underground forces in play.

I am really amazed by his courage. He could've stayed safe in Germany but he decided to go back and face Putin.

it seems super-unreasonable to go back. i do not understand that guy.

It's at least as unreasonable to live and die thoughtlessly as it is to live and die with intention.

As the saying goes, "sometimes setting yourself on fire sheds light on the situation".

Just enforcing currently existing laws for money laundering can make quite a difference. Putin's friends continue to buy London real estate and soccer clubs freely. $2B belonging to Putin has been discovered in Panama papers, afaik nothing happened.

What astounds me are the liberals who rightfully call for Navalny's freedom but defend prosecuting Assange and Snowden. Hypocrisy seems to be a consistent feature of politics.

It's not like we actively plotted to assassinate Assange though, we hired a Spanish firm to do that for us. We totally have the moral high ground.

Hillary proposed a drone strike on Assange. https://truepundit.com/under-intense-pressure-to-silence-wik...

Pretty clearly a joke, though someone in her position making that joke is rather disgusting.

Assange is charged with helping Manning with decrypting stolen files and offering advice on how to best cover her tracks among other things according to the DOJ indictment. Why are you so convinced of his innocence? Do you have information that definitively refutes all of those charges?

Edit: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1289641/downl...

I'm not convinced Assange is innocent of that, I don't think it should be a crime. A lot of Navalny's anti-corruption work involved hacking and "stealing" the emails of corrupt politicians. Do you have a problem with that, too? Manning's "theft" of secret files exposed crimes of the US government to the people.

I see it the same as robbing billionaire and giving half the proceeds to poor people. Just because you’ve done some good doesn’t absolve you of wrongdoing.

If we look at the Wikileaks case, Assange decided to release tens of thousands of documents without redacting the names of people, explicitly putting those individuals in harms way.

What astounds me are the people on Hacker News who cry about free speech over Parler yet are silent when Russia jails someone for being in an opposition party, a TRUE violation of free speech.

"I believe that President Trump's Twitter ban is an unacceptable act of censorship." - Alexey Navalny //twitter.com/navalny/status/1347959515946360833?s=19

I have never been silent about Navalny. He is clearly a political prisoner. However it is important to be consistent, and not only be a critic when it's your adversaries commiting a fault.

Came here to write this. Hypocrisy is not a feature politics alone, it does seem to be liberals mandate as sad as it sounds.

And if we look deeper, comparing useless CIA-funded clown with people who shed light to atrocities performed by government and military complex and paid with their own life (treatment that Assange got all those years are not even remotely humane) for it, is an incredible stretch, to put it mildly.

Are you seriously arguing that only a single party engages in hypocritical activities, after an entire 4 years of Trump and Republicans enabling him?

I believe you're missing the point. It's not about blaming Republican or Democratic party, which are largely made from same dough, but freedom.

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