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I think you have a rather stunted view of capitalism. Go and earn your money in the free market. You are then free to spend it how you want. Capitalism doesn’t dictate that every voluntary monetary transaction has to be market-driven. Charities exist. Donate to those of your own volition.

In fact Jesus came from Galilee, the working/merchant class area. Generally the more capitalist area. He spoke a lot about money, but all of the vitriol was aimed at Judeans, who were close to Jerusalem and politically connected. I.e. ones who didn’t necessarily get their money from usual hard work, but through political exploitation. Good podcast on it here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wROu4IPB4bQ

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> Capitalism doesn’t dictate that every voluntary monetary transaction has to be market-driven. Charities exist. Donate to those of your own volition.

True, but only the market-driven transactions are capitalist.

>He spoke a lot about money, but all of the vitriol was aimed at Judeans, who were close to Jerusalem and politically connected. I.e. ones who didn’t necessarily get their money from usual hard work, but through political exploitation.

Jesus said it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. He didn't make an exception for those who earned their fortune "honestly." He constantly told people to give all of their possessions away to the poor and abandon their individual identities and ambitions to the extreme of even attending their families' funerals ("let the dead bury their own dead.") He said "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

The goal of capitalism is the accumulation of material wealth, which is clearly at odds to what Jesus and the early church were trying to preach.

> He constantly told people to give all of their possessions away to the poor

No, this is an imbalanced view. Listen to the podcast linked, it was directed at Judeans.

I’m not saying that individuals shouldn’t be wary of holding wealth up as the most important thing as Jesus said you cannot serve God and mammon. But that’s a different thing entirely from “how do you get wealth to begin with”. One can become wealthy in an honest way and then be quite generous if he serves God instead of mammon.

Also not laying up treasures speaks to what one should do when they have money, not the system by which they got money. Coming from Galilee, I think he’d be more pro-free market since he railed against the politically connected who got their money through corruption.

Also there’s a time and a place to take care of the poor voluntarily, but don’t trust everyone whose says they care for the poor. You should donate to them out of your own heart, and be wary of centralized programs. Socialism is the Judas Iscariot view of economics: pretend to care for the poor and then line your own pockets.

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