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Now 2021 is shaping up to be one interesting year... thoughts folks?

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Free speech, from Russia...

And my-oh-my the political leverage is colossal

I bet the US Gov. will try to block it... it will be the start of the great firewall?

I'll take that bet. The U.S. will not block it.

one dime it is.

Russia isn’t pro free speech, they’re pro internal US conflict.

The irony

Free speech, so long as it agrees with the Putin government.

Otherwise you will likely end up poisoned like Navalny or happen to fall off a balcony like so many Russian journalists.

It's pretty amusing. To quote an (in)famous xkcd. The private companies told the Right they were assholes and showed them the door. And now Russia is stretching out a hand and saying: you are welcome in my house.

And of course the Left is upset. The Right were supposed to become friendless losers with imaginary friends[0]! Not befriend other people! That's cheating!

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25817605

The rights new friends seem to have a tenancy to poison their political opponents with nerve agents.

the US is becoming a risky place to host your infra.

you can be deplatformed on a whim, as a result of petty internal ideological resistance anywhere in your supply chain. no infrastructure partner will go to bat for you, they'd rather forgo your money in favor of passing a regime's purity test

you might also be subject to sweeping legislation that allows the US govt to act against you if you are not politically aligned

if this continues, the US will be an unfavorable jurisdiction for infrastructure. its just easier to find a less charged environment where you have clarity

Somehow I think 99.9% of businesses will manage without giving it a second thought.

Which regime would you recommend?

Anywhere with a strong, independent legal system e.g. EU, Canada, Australia, Japan etc would never tolerate an app like Parler being used to incite an insurrection.

Any countries without one e.g. China, Russia, Saudi Arabia would also not tolerate it as it could equally be used to incite an insurrection.

So very curious where you think this "safe" place is in the world.

Twitter and facebook tolerate the use of their apps to set up autonomous zones within american cities and incite users to riot, loot, commit arson and murder cops so why doesn't parler just use a similar hosting infrastructure to whatever they use?

I’ll pretend this is an argument in good faith and point out the explicit intent in the messages to commit crimes is the point.

Organization of a protest that draws 100,000 where a small number commit crimes is much different than rallying 100,000 with the stated purpose of committing crimes.

Widespread vandalism and looting during BLM protests cost the insurance industry and estimated $2 BILLION. Hardly small potatoes.

Seeing as organising the set up of autonomous states within American cities is allowed on twitter on facebook, the tiny number of Trump supporters who entered the capitol and could just say they wanted to set up an an autonomous state there.

I’m curious what you think the solution would be. Ban the hash tag BLM? Ban anyone who supports BLM protests?

It seems you want Twitter to do more and that’s fair, but the question is what more should they do?

BLM found wide spread support. HN had a George Floyd banner. Should HN be banned from its hosting account?

Which regime purity test would that be?

Twitter has said _for years, during his "regime"_ (funny that you used that word) that if Trump wasn't a "public figure", he would have been banned.

In 2021, western democracy will continue to be attacked from within and from the outside. Especially with the US in pandemonium, Putin and the CCP will no doubt exploit the opportunity.

Then there is the thought-policing of big tech and social media. 2021 is definitely shaping up to be a crucial year, a time when people need to wake up, get informed and defend freedom while they still have it.

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