GitHub admits fault in firing of Jewish employee, head of HR resigns
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> On Friday, January 8th, GitHub separated with an employee.
What an absurdly passive corporate euphemism for GitHub wrongfully firing one of their employees.
I mean it's better to have some co-workers who are dicks, some that call you a grammar nazi and maybe even some who disagree with you politically than to play a Russian roulette with words every day - you never know which one is loaded and terminates your career.
It’s easy to protect someone who is supported by the majority.
Like I was saying, the decision would have been the same either way, but it's more egregious when weaponized against a Jewish employee.
If you were warning about the presence of a group calling for a Mexican genocide to your Mexican colleagues and were fired for it, it would make sense for that to be noted in the news stories.
"GitHub admits fault in firing of employee who said 'Nazi'"
...which, while true, would give people a negative impression of the employee if they only read the headline.
It's also meaningful that he is Jewish and asked his coworkers to beware of Nazis because he has more reason than a non-Jewish person to be afraid of Nazis.
I wonder if that holds true in 2020 as much as it did in 1933, or if it ever held true actually
However, the title is rather unfortunate: “Update on an employee matter.” That title is extraordinarily biased. While I didn’t really anticipate how this submission would get flagged, I don’t think the corporate-speak title is at all fair to the situation. That said, duly noted how the mods treated that story versus this one.
My guess is that someone interpreted this as Trump supporters are Nazis and as an accusation of their coworkers
These censorious companies are way too sensitive for this. I don't get how these are the same people who promote entrepreneurship and taking huge risks in business and tech but the second someone says a word that hurts their feelings they should be fired.
> “Others have already said so, but I just want to say it
> explicitly myself - I think that nazis were present at
> some protests on Jan 6, and that it’s very scary to see
> those ideas on display,” wrote one engineer in Slack.
I am yet to see evidence of Nazis being at the protests - I don't think anybody openly displaying support for Nazi ideals would find wide support in a pro-America crowd.
Assuming there were some in the crowd, I am slightly concerned that what was actually meant was "all of those people were Nazis", in which case this is dangerous rhetoric.
> “100% Nazis were there, and 1000000000% Nazis are scary as
> fuck and do not belong anywhere. PARTICULARLY AT GitHub!”
> responded another.
This idea that any group "do not belong anywhere" is quite scary. Once you have gained the title of 'Nazi' (which seems to be a more abused label in modern times), then there seems to be this idea that you have no place in society - and that you can have all services removed from you.
Even if you are a literal Nazi (or Communist, or <insert bad ideology>), as long as you abide by the laws of the land, you can be a functioning member of society, and as such need the same basic protections. These people should be allowed to open bank accounts, buy groceries, go to work, pay taxes, drink at a bar, etc. We can't de-humanize people because we disagree with the way they think.
> “Hubbers are free to express concerns about neo-Nazis,
> antisemitism, white supremacy or any other form of
> discrimination or harassment,” he wrote. “And of course,
> we expect Hubbers to be respectful, professional, and to
> follow GitHub policies on discrimination and harassment at
> all times.”
I miss the days when it was taboo to mention politics or religion in companies. I used to work with a "Nazi" and a "Communist" (as well as a whole range of political leanings), and we worked together fine. I've also worked with alcoholics and drug addicts. Generally we all agreed that if we want to do these things, we do it off company time.
GitHub was way out of line viewing and judging these messages. It doesn't matter what happened there. That channel is not for them.
> messages. It doesn't matter what happened there. That
> channel is not for them.
I think that really depends on when the employees are using it - if it's on company time then I think GitHub have some right to reprimand people for the use of their time, rather than the content on their messages.
In this classic picture https://news.yahoo.com/q-shaman-stormed-capitol-upset-192631...
the guy in the yellow shirt is Jason Tankersley, founder of the Maryland Skinheads. The guy to his right in the mask is Matthew Heimbach, former leader of the Traditionalist Workers Party (a neo nazi org).
I believe you have a case of mistaken identity. This article identifies the man as Will Watson from Montgomery.
https://www.alreporter.com/2021/01/07/no-this-capitol-insurr...
The "Camp Auschwitz" shirt strikes me as pretty clear.
https://www.jta.org/2021/01/11/united-states/a-photo-of-an-a...
Edit: And this is one example, if you are truly in the dark about these symbols and what not being on display more examples can be provided but I really would like to know if you've seen this and what you think.
> with Nazis?
If that is a photo from the capitol protests, sure, the sentiment is in line with that of the Nazis on the topic of Jewish people. But I might expect many Palestinians to share the same ideas, but they are not by definition Nazis, despite overlapping ideas about Jewish people.
That shirt is black and yellow, the colors for the 'Proud Boys' [1]. Whilst the group is described as 'far-right', I don't believe they support Nazis. I believe the leader is of mixed ethnicity.
I'd say that Microsoft should fire all of GitHub management for this -- as well as the other employees who stirred the pot.
That's great that github acknowledges that employees are free to talk about their concerns of bigotry, but calling everyone outside of your party a nazi is just as bigoted. Tone it down.
100% Nazis were there.
EDIT: Like, Jason Tankersley is standing there next to Q Shaman in tons of pics. How is this controversial?
The point is that there are many people with many ideologies, ugly or not, that patriciate in this year-long age of unrest. Can we stop with trying to characterize everything as something?
the guy in the yellow shirt is Jason Tankersley, founder of the Maryland Skinheads. The guy to his right in the mask is Matthew Heimbach, former leader of the Traditionalist Workers Party (a neo nazi org).
The fact that you can point to someone there that wasn't a nazi doesn't negate the fact that 100% nazis were both there and prominent.
How about offering the employee a generous severance package and their job back?
edit: Based on their blog it seems like they did, the linked article just didn't mention this.
They probably can't say more than that.
"In light of these findings, we immediately reversed the decision to separate with the employee and are in communication with his representative."
They need to terminate the CEO and everyone else who has been involved in firing the employee in question. It is not that the CEO was not informed about that kind of "action" and did not decide not to overrule it.
How one chooses to respond to that description is telling on oneself. And "see? just don't talk about politics, ignore the literal Nazis" is telling on yourself, too.
How many people like that do you think are bumping around having a meaningful impact on people's belief systems (versus just being ignorant in their own little bubbles)? I ask that because the level of fervor and fear around Nazis these days makes it sound like they're goose-stepping around in large groups.
the guy in the yellow shirt is Jason Tankersley, founder of the Maryland Skinheads. The guy to his right in the mask is Matthew Heimbach, former leader of the Traditionalist Workers Party (a neo nazi org).
Sure: https://www.adl.org/blog/anti-semitism-on-full-display-in-ch...
Those goalposts are really on wheels aren't they?
<Example provided>
Anything aside from this event?
<Another example provided, points to moving goalposts>
> It’s not a surprise the only other example you could pull is the other one that was pushed by the media relentlessly for years. Anything else?
https://www.13wmaz.com/mobile/article/news/neo-nazi-group-le...
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2018/01/os...
https://mobile.reuters.com/news/picture/white-nationalists-d...
But I’m not chasing those goalposts any more.