Comment by kloud | Hacker News Reader

Comment by kloud | Hacker News Reader

VSCode has great and convenient language support, but the trade-off is reduced text editing efficiency, slower speed and more bloat. It is a worthy trade-off in many situations, I use it often when working on projects that are written in languages I am not too familiar with.

I would like to emphasize how big of a game changer the next release of Neovim 0.5.0 will be. With builtin LSP support it will get code navigation, auto-completion and refactoring support on the level of VSCode out of the box, while being way more efficient and faster. I will likely still keep VSCode installed just in case, but only expect it to use it in rare occasions in the future.

Emacs is really powerful, but its age is showing and there are some serious technical deficiencies under the hood. I would challenge the idea from the post that the need for "Neoemacs" is not that great. From the history it appears to me more like that many people tried, but due to complexity of Emacs nobody has been able to successfully pull it off yet.

I've used Neovim prior to trying vscode because it has a language server protocol client extension. Unfortunately, the extension didn't work too well (it had issues with `clangd`) at the time. So, just to compare I installed vscode and was amazed at how polished it was.

Still, I had it in my mind that I wanted to have and fast alternative to vscode so I kept trying to work with Neovim. That is 'till I noticed how much I dislike using vim. You see it has that learning curve that if you've stopped using it for awhile it's a struggle to do basic things. So I used a configuration that made it act more like normal editors. So problem solved? Unfortunately, most extensions are made for a normal vim settup not my easy mode settup. Plus, I started missing having simple things like scrollbars and tabs I could click on and move with the mouse. (I remember the graphical front end for Neovim not meeting these needs at the time.)

So ultimately, I just moved on and stayed with vscode. I would still like an alternative (kedit/k-develop looks promising). However, I'm sort of addicted to the plugins.

That’s amazing news. Native LSP would be game changing. I use coc, but it takes a bit of messing about to get everything working smoothly. Also vscode has has a bunch of extra stuff beyond what’s available via LSP for python now, which is a shame because I’d love to get a full pyright + bells experience in vim.

I’ve had great luck using ALE lately. I don’t have much experience with coc but the ALE setup process is very straightforward.

Coc has coc-pyright extension. You don't have to use pyls. https://github.com/neoclide/coc.nvim/wiki/Using-coc-extensio... https://github.com/fannheyward/coc-pyright

I use it, but MS have forked pyright with some features now locked just to vscode without support in the LSP.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/python/announcing-pylance-fas...

hmm in terms of neomacs, is this what remacs was trying to do but in rust?

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