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DotCloud acquires Duostack, rolls out MongoDB support

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I've got some test deployments on DotCloud, the only thing I don't like is that I have no idea how much resources are going to cost, I can't find prices ANYWHERE on the website.

I love how it all works, I love how fast it is and the deployment stuff couldn't have been easier (using it with git).

Is there any word on pricing?

ditto on this. I'm up to 9 instances of various types and pretty comfortable with everything. I hope the pricing is reasonable.

Pricing is very important to us. We won't keep you waiting much longer!

Sounds familiar! :)

"shykes 152 days ago

Expect a pricing page very soon."

Seriously, when are you going to post the pricing details?

I hope it is something very straightforward such as $0.04/process-hour.

Touche :)

We went through a few iterations with test paid customers. It took a while to properly convey that our value is in reducing complexity, not selling ram. It's a long process but we're very close.

I can tell you we have a date to reveal pricing, and we intend to stick to it.

Do you have a date to reveal the date to reveal pricing?

No, but if you're willing to take a customer discovery phone call, in exchange of your precious feedback I will give you tons of details on our pricing. 90% of it is decided.

Glad to help; email is in the profile.

Contacted, thanks!

Email is in my profile as well; thanks.

This is great news! I've been using Dotcloud at my job for about a month with an RoR app. We used to be on Heroku w/ Amazon RDS. And I needed a separate EC2 instance for stuff like phpMyAdmin and other misc scripts. We outgrew it quickly when we needed more control over Resque. Now with Dotcloud, I can run everything under one group with fine-grained control when I need it. Its awesome!

The only thing I am missing is Memcache and MongoDB support (but it looks like thats coming soon ;D ). Also, an invite for personal use would be awesome!

MongoDB is not just coming soon. It's there! Have fun with it.

We actually rolled out MongoDB this morning :)

Memcache is coming soon, along with lots of other cool stuff.

Thanks for the feedback!

Any support for Sphinx (search, not the Python doc thing) on the roadmap?

We are currently experimenting to find the best way to roll out sphinx.

We already have one alpha user that seems pretty happy with it.

Great!

It's a great day for the dotCloud and duostack communities! Both teams are lurking on HN to answer questions.

We're only getting started folks!

Congrats Solomon, it's a very interesting direction. You already have some crazy momentum, I'm sure this'll only boost you farther!

Excited to see what you guys roll out next!

I wonder if they'll finish the support for basic data import commands with Mongo. Currently on Duostack I have yet to find a clear way to load dev data via all the db.copyDatabase or mongoimport/mongostore commands.

You can run mongoimport locally and specify your DotCloud MongoDB service as the remote host. You could also SSH to your MongoDB service (run "dotcloud ssh <namespace.deployment>") and do the same.

One thing you may want to consider adding to your client is a "mongotunnel" command which will set up an ssh tunnel with compression between the user's computer and your mongodb servers. I've noticed some significant performance benefit to this vs. just accessing mongod normally over the internet, mostly due to the abysmal upload rate on my cable modem. Also this allows you to avoid sending data in plain-text over the open internet.

Why do you spend all this time building this platform, but then use Wufoo for your signup form? Doesn't give me a ton of confidence. Don't mean to sound cynical, just wondering.

Our signup form changed a few times, and used to be much more elaborate. Tweaking it with Wufoo saved us lots of time - time we could spend on improving the platform :)

Would love to see the duostack environment vars management added across the board on dotcloud.

Duostack publicized upcoming support for autoscaling. Is that still in the roadmap?

Oh yes :)

I've been using Duostack and love it (aside from the low db quotas). Should I be worried? What will the transition be like?

Matthew, we'll work our asses off to make the transition as painless as possible. You should receive an email soon with all the details. Don't hesitate to get in touch with us directly.

I'll be in touch, I was hoping to launch in the next week.

We'll make sure you can.

I've been thinking about something similar by using LXC with minimal capabilities. Using git, etc.. with 'stack' specific allowable file modifications (configuration and what not), is this how dotcloud works (minus the distributed FS and flow replication for HA)?

Yes, we use container technology. We were the first to do so (first prototypes in 2008) although others are catching on. That's not the key differentiator of the platform, though, anymore than Xen was for EC2.

I predicted that this would happen the first time I mixed them up.

Wow, congratulations to both companies. That was quick!

Congrats to Dotcloud and Duostack! Exciting news.

Any plans to support Tornado?

Yes tornado/gunicorn/thin/... support is planned. Stay tuned!

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