Small modular nuclear reactors may help polluting industries reduce emissions
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Similar setup is planned also for the Dukovany NPP but not yet built.
Modern efficient district heating (hot water pipes with thick insulation instead of the old steam based systems) is quite popular around here and thermal power plants or waste incinerators are often run in co-generation mode where they produce both electricity and district heating.
In any environment where renewable power is being curtailed, the cost of using that power to make heat will be very low. Nuclear heat will be competing against a very low cost alternative.
One of these SMR hooked to your factory can provide it, at probably higher temps, enabling more processes, 24/7, and at a less variable cost, not having to rely on external supply.
So excluding the extra cost of the heat pump, and the cost savings of nuclear not needing a turbine and waste heat rejection system, renewables are starting out ahead. We would really need to see some real world systems to fully evaluate costs.
One interesting side of this is that it admits extremely cheap "assurance" storage. That is: if one has a fuel to heat the thermal store when needed, then this can provide an assured source of power in the event of very rare prolonged outages that deplete the usual store. The marginal capital cost of adding this capability could be a factor of 3 less than that of providing dedicated gas turbines (using hydrogen, say) for that assurance.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fenrg.2020.0016...
that postulates 50% efficiency for five day round-trip storage, and other people think they can hit 80% or so (about the same as pumped hydo). Thanks for the pointer!
Off-the-grid remote locations is the obvious market for electricity generation currently addressed with diesel fuel. Combined electricity/heat for large campuses and remote communities seems like another popular use case.
This article makes the case for high temperature industrial processes like the manufacture of Portland cement. I'd like to see an economic analysis but I can't see this being a viable option unless carbon emissions regulation penalizes fossil fuels.
Geography not only determines what is and is not available on-grid (electricity and/or natural gas) but the regulatory regime which can significantly impact design decisions.
The difficulty is that while these reactors are, somewhat, portable they are still massive heavy things. Any "remote location" with a road that could carry one of these things probably has a power line running alongside that road too. It would be great to have one of these at any number of high arctic communities, but getting them there is probably not possible other than by ship to coastal ports. Even then, the crane requirements probably preclude most ports. They need to be lighter if they want to push into remote communities.
Many of these have operated in and around the most densely populated ports and cities in the world.
I helped operate 3 of them. No issues.
Nearly every commercial plant is different in design and components. Imagine if every company you worked for designed, built their own operating system and computers.
You might even deploy them as marine vessels in ports [1], so that in the event of a (hopefully rare!) catastrophic failure, flooding the reactor with water is trivial.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_floating_nuclear_power...
I'm not sure it's even fair to compare the operational discrepancies of something as simple as a test / training reactor to a nuclear heat source at a concrete plant?
The problem with nuclear is primarily cost, cost, cost, and then scale, security, and waste.
In addition oversight for Nuclear is WAY better. If there is a breach we're way more likely to know, rather than wondering why everyone in a certain Indiana town is getting a rare form of cancer from an unreported chemical spill.
Risk tolerance wise, I would rather have one of these running next door, than having a steel plant 20 miles away...
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/...
This is founded on the proposition that everyone trying to push ecological costs somewhere else, somewhere "over there", can be way more dangerous to human wellbeing than the occasional natural disaster or accident.
1. End-of-life and maintenance guarantees. Transferring nuclear waste and processing them is not cheap. You need to put capital aside to pay for these. Startup going bust and leaving customers to handle with the rest is not an option.
2. Regulations and safety. Just like standard nuclear, you need government subvention (not direct money transfer, but a law that puts upper cap to damages).
You can solve these with scale. If you build 1000s of standardized units of small heating reactors, special waste management and transportation solutions for just this type becomes economical. If they sell only 500, lifetime cost can be astronomical.
>1. End-of-life and maintenance guarantees. Transferring nuclear waste and processing them is not cheap. You need to put capital aside to pay for these.
Why isn't that solvable? You just provided a solution, ie. rather than charging $100k for a reactor, they'll charge $100k + $20k disposal fee (to be put in a trust or something). Why can't this be done by a startup?
Your trust idea is a good one, maybe with some insurance added, but it really does impact the economics of the project.
That said, nuclear reactors as thermal generators are a great idea, particularly for e.g. cement manufacturing, which is a huge producer of greenhouse gasses. This is one area where I support nuclear over wind/solar.
I hope this works!
AFAIK most of the co2 is from the chemical reaction itself, not the heat source used. From wikipedia:
>First, the limestone (calcium carbonate) is burned to remove its carbon, producing lime (calcium oxide) in what is known as a calcination reaction. This single chemical reaction is a major emitter of global carbon dioxide emissions.[10]
About half, I think (depending on the fuel used).
Cement manufacture is a major destination for supposedly "recycled" plastic, btw. Cement kilns are very flexible on fuel quality.
There is nonlinear decrease in the cost per unit when the number of units sold increases. The total cost per unit depends on how many units are produced.
If you process the waste from few units, the disposal fee per unit is very expensive. If you sell thousands of units, you can plan for very large scale standardize disposal procedure that drives down price to fraction what it for small number of units.
Customers don't want to pay for startup risk. So first 100 - 500 units sold could be too expensive.
You could solve this problem by selling the company to someone big, like Berkshire Hathaway Energy. They have shoulders to take the risk and money to do the capital investments when the time comes.
Actually, it is, because there is so little of it.
However, in the Nuclear Waste Policy Act of 1982, the US government declared that only the US government can handle nuclear waster, and nuclear power plant operators have to pay into a fund so that the waste handling will be funded. It then spent the following 38 years doing a grand total of exactly nothing, forcing the power plant operators to store the waste. And not for lack of funds, because the Nuclear Waste Fund sits an an unspent $45 billion.
Please stop pretending nuclear waste was either a financial or a technical problem. It's purely a political problem.
> a law that puts upper cap to damages
Which US law places a cap on damages caused by nuclear power plants?
Which has, of course, long since been spent. When anything is done, we will be taxed for it. $12B was handed over to contractors for work done on Yucca Mountain.
Wikipedia:
> "US court of appeals ruled that nuclear utilities may stop paying into the nuclear waste ... The fee ended May 16, 2014."
> "Lacking an operating repository, the federal government initially paid utility companies somewhere between $300 and $500 million per year in compensation for failing to comply with the contract it signed to take the spent nuclear fuel by 1998. For the ten years after 2015 it is estimated to cost taxpayers $24 billion in payments from the Judgment Fund. The Judgment Fund is not subject to budget rules..."
So, $47b was collected from ratepayers for extra-high-cost power, and sent to the govt. Now, taxpayers are paying out $2.4 billion, every year, directly to nuke operators, who pocket it. ($2.4b would buy a pretty big solar farm.)
When something is determined to do about the waste, there will be no nuke ratepayers left, at several times the cost of renewables -- or operators, except those kept open to collect their $2.4b. Instead, taxpayers will pick up the bill. Again.
Of course. But not on anything related to nuclear waste. In plain language, it has been stolen by the government.
If you don't like the taxpayer having to pick up the tab left by incompetent politicians, you should have voted differently.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-or...
Seems like this will be a thing in the not too distant future.