Villarejo: The rise and fall of the Spanish state’s secret fixer
bbc.com
bbc.com
I’m learning it too and I’d like to think I’m 30% there, and I’m learning for my family .
In the meantime, I joined a Spanish/English exchange Meetup group. We did weekly sessions talking in Spanish.
I started listening to Spanish podcasts made for beginners. I like the Hoy Hablamos. Started listening to Spanish music, tried to read the lyrics of my favourite songs.
At this point, I'm watching Spanish films in Netflix with Spanish subtitles. I think I'm getting 70% of it, quite a lot I need to pause and translate something or rewind a few times.
I'm definitely nowhere close to being fluid but I'm feeling the progress I made over those two years and I just keep going. I'm not in rush in any way so I'm not pushing my self too hard.
My ultimate goal is to be able to go to Spain and talk fluid Spanish with locals. :)
It's insane that modern society prefers to have living inherited hood ornaments.
Constitutional monarchy can be a peaceful way to democracy, but there is no reason to make it permanent. If Iran becomes true democracy, maybe they keep Ayatollah as tourist attraction? North Korea could keep Kim-family as well. 200-yers form now Kim-family wold be insignificant royals sitting next to British royals.
It seems an argument can be made for having the former be inherited, so as to avoid the inevitable politicization of the position that happens in countries where a separate head of state is also elected. It's not fair to either the commoners who can ~never be elevated to that position nor to the royals who can ~never leave it, but perhaps better for the country as a whole.
I don't think that's even a thing.
Won't bore you with the details but it was all swept under the rug by the (socialist!) government to save the country. In fact it only came to light because the US Congress investigated that company at the time.
I am sure there are things going on all the time that never reach the papers. Even in "civilised" countries.
According to the press, EUR 2M were spent before his arrival in the "male area" to properly prepare the accommodations.
His wife's share in the inheritance of the former King, in the range of tens to hundreds of millions, bumped up considerably by a 50% when the current King said he would not accept any inheritance from his father, so probably if he cannot find a job due to his ex-convict status, he'll be well off.
I'm sure it's been a pretty bad experience for him compared to living in Switzerland, but not in the same league of the rest of people convicted in Spain.
If you don't, why are you pushing bullshit?
All journalism is nowadays as closed to a mafia as it can be.
Baseless bullshit illustrating nothing but your own cynicism, however, is not, and doesn't belong here.
Dude could've been taken straight out of a movie. Sometimes reality does surpass fiction.
But, we agree on that, absolutely irrelevant for HN.
... dirtiest affairs of the Spanish _politicians_. Power wars, corruption and how the deep state works routinely under the rug, are in itself pretty interesting themes. Don't made the mistake to thing that this would never happen in your own country (or that is not happening right now).
Spanish society does not have any part to play on this power and lies game but... "Spain is evil, yadah, yadah, we want independence, yadah, yadah, etc". Yep. Obviously elections in Catalonia have started again. We had heard this before.
Any sources or further reading?
EDIT: I see I'm being downvoted, but I stand by my words. I'll provide more context though. The Spanish Civil War is the pivotal moment in Spanish history in the 20th century and explains a lot of what Spain is nowadays - from the state of autonomías (autonomous regions), to the bitter divide between Left and Right, or the total inability to reach national agreements on education and other strategic matters. Aside from that it's an authoritative and engrossing read.
But if you want something interesting I will name 3 interesting cases that have shown up in the last few years.
ERE case andalucia, essentially EREs are just the spanish name for furlough but it also includes things like early retirement. Well in Andalucia since 2001 until 2009 a case of local politicians managed to corruptly send up to 680 million to themselves and family members. This is the largest corruption case in Spanish history in terms of money.
Equally news worthy, the opposite political party (we mostly have two) had a case themselves where the tresurer Luis Barcenas was found to have 40 million on a Swiss account which he claimed he used to pay political leaders in Spain bonuses and that the money came from big companies that would bride them to give them public contracts. Essentially the american lobbying but in a country were its illegal.
And lastly there is the case of the Cajas. Cajas are a spanish version of savings banks. They are meant to be small, local, have low risk accounts for worker savings etc. Problem was many had politicians in their boards who would make the requirements for credit much lower, so they could finance public pharaonic architecture that would get them reelected. (Due to this Spain has several unused, someone built them and no plane every landed or took off from them). This opened the gates not only for those politicians but for everyone to get credit incredibly easy which is one of the reasons Spain was incredibly hardly hit in 2008, and one of the reasons it's one of the few countries that has not recovered the loans given to banks.
Unfortunately, there are corruption cases all over the political spectrum in Spain.
Edit: Downvoter care to explain? Please check this [1] NUTS 2 official data, half of Spain is above half of Germany
[1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/GDP_per_...
Public services are paid with public money, if there is no money there are no services and as far as I know there is still public health and education and equal opportunitieas for (almost) everybody.
A lot of corruption there anyway.
It seems to me that many people questioning this in this thread have not read anything about Spain, at all.
I'll bite and give you a few examples of why one could consider Spain a failed state:
- Consistently has one of the highest unemployment rates of the OECD. 10% was normal pre-2008, 15-25% has been the new normal ever since. Rates for young people in the 20-30 age group are typically between 40-50%, leading many to speak of a "lost generation".
- About half of the Catalans want to secede. Basques are right now at an uneasy peace thanks to favorable tax treatments, but before the defeat of terrorist group ETA about a decade ago, more than a thousand people were murdered in the name of Basque secession. Though violence is unlikely to return right now (hopefully), the Basque situation could become similar to Cataluña in a moment's notice. There is also a clear rise of nationalism in other regions where this was barely a problem (eg, Comunitat Valenciana or Baleares)
- The two main national parties have been part of massive corruption scandals, going from the national down to the local level (the article alludes to this). We're talking embezzlement in the billions, Roman-decadence levels of squandering (every town wanted its own airport), and intrigues that could be pulled off out of a cheap LeCarré knock-off.
- Education is quite poor, if not abysmal. Massive dropout rates in secondary education, really bad comparative performance in PISA reports, and barely any university makes it into top-200 institutions worldwide. Politicians keep changing the agenda every four years instead of trying to agree to a national pact to get us out of this hole.
These are just things off the top of my mind, but I could go on for a while.
Maybe the fact that you only see Spanish people talk poorly about the country is a reflection of us being the primary subjects of its blatant problems, and of the fact that few outsiders care?
The economy without the ECB aid could have already crashed like 2 o 3 times in the last ten years
Spain judicial system not following the constitutional rulebook when ordering new top judges
Biggest airport 4 days block cause the snow machine workers are not rehired
Where he saw the sun be born
If he praises England, he must be English
If he rebuffs Prussia, he is French
And if he speaks ill of Spain... he is Spanish
- Joaquín Bartrina, circa 1870
Franco tried to change that (as well as eliminating a sizeable part of Spain that didn't fit with his values). To this day, many spaniards identify the spanish national identity with those Franco's values (despite being fairliy minoritary and Spain a very socially progressive country).
After the transition to democracy, regional governments had a lot of incentives to create or reinforce their own identities to gain economic leverage against the central government. This has always been extremely transparent and it's no coincidence that the two richest regions have the strongest independentist movement.
So yeah, there is a lot of self-hatred or internalised inferiority complex... But also dishonesty. Many of the comments you will read online are self-interested (catalonian independentists) or even straight propaganda from the catalonian government. Not that it would be hard to find any other spaniard to rage about how Spain is, actually, a 3rd world country.
Nah, not everyone. You will see all this people singing proud "I'm spanish!, spanish!, spanish!..." in the next UEFA champions league. I assume that we are just a little drama queens sometimes, but in the end we all are very similar to you. You will find exactly the same frolicking behavior in any basketball league.
Being young adults and trying to thrive in a big city is not easy of course, but this is not a problem exclusive from Spain
There is no "us" in Spain. There's castillian imperialists and people living in occupied territories. The only possible "us" right now for many Spanish passport-holders is Europe.
It’s very frustrating that people are so vocal with extreme opinions such as this one. Whenever the topic of Spain comes up, someone will try to make it as if they have been conquered 10 years ago, trying hard to distort history that’s quite similar to most of the other countries.
You know what is frustrating, also? To have a foreign army occupying your country.
Sorry but the constitution grants to every citizen the right to work and live peacefully anywhere they wish inside the country boundaries.
I'm pleased to inform you that this includes the grant for YOU to live in MY place without being tagged as "invasive imperialist" or harassed by me to quit the area. That would be simply illegal (the words idiotic and ludicrous would be also good adjectives); but don't worry, we never would do that to your family.
in short, haters gonna hate... Anybody can go and create their own Cat-anon and rewrite the history to fit into their delusions if they want (Is a free country after all), but they only lie to themselves and the reality will hit like a ton of bricks eventually
It is really austonding that there only a loose integration between spanish-speaking countries, despite sharing very similar (good and not so good) cultural values.
(Not to say that it doesn't have structural problems, but that's hardly exclusive to Spain)
I am spaniard and am painfully aware of Spain's problems. And maybe spaniards being so critical of Spain could be something positive (instead of complacency or nationalism).
But honestly? The negativity is pointless and exhausting. Pointless because these are rarely informed opinions putting data into context. Exhausting, because uplifting news need to have an angle that to make them negative.
PS: And yes, I am not denying that there is a lot of corruption enabled by politicians in Spain. And it's a problem. But that doesn't make Spain a failed state. Or how is all of this true:
- Loss of control of its territory, or of the monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force therein - Erosion of legitimate authority to make collective decisions - Inability to provide public services - Inability to interact with other states as a full member of the international community
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_on_the_Referendum_on_Self-...
The metrics most spaniards look are -General Unemployment rate -Juvenile unemployment -Minimun Salaries -Buy and Rent prices in principal cities
And in most of these Spain is at the bottom
Yes we have crooked politicians and public officials, but everyone is crooked and corrupt in the best case. At worst we are crooked and corrupt throwing our lives and money away.
This gets no reflection on official statistics.
Spain is a developing, quasi-feudalistic country and no amount of european money is going to change that at the root.
Sorry but not. Not my employees, that's for sure. Don't generalize.
Corruption is of the same nature as in any other developed country, inside trusted circles of crooks. Try bribing any policeman in Spain and see how that goes. We regularly convict criminals for embezzlement and related crimes, including a relative of the last Spanish king (Iñaki Urdangarín).
Structural problems will need to be resolved (employment and entrepreneurship we can never foster enough). But we can't keep kicking ourselves down, that seems to be the national pastime.