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> Fuck these fascists

Not far from where I live there's China embassy. 24 hours a day 7 days a week next to the embassy there's a guy sitting, just outside during summer and inside a tent during winter, and there's table with leaflets nearby. That guy constantly reminds all the people visiting China embassy about persecution of Falun Gong (which I did not know about until I encountered him).

That guy is helping. You, cursing people who are not here in the place where everybody agrees with you, are not.

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That guy is doing the opposite - Falun Gong is a notorious cult, it's like a Chinese Sciencetology. It damages the actual critique his message might contain.

> Falun Gong is a notorious cult, it's like a Chinese Sciencetology

Is that fact? Not that I really care: I would protects church of Scientology if they were persecuted same way as Falun Gong. Just curious.

> It damages the actual critique his message might contain.

How so?

>Is that fact?

Pretty much, among other things they advocate that 'race mixing' is the result of aliens trying to exterminate humanity[1], they're pretty much out of their minds and also super homophobic.

>How so?

If you came to my country and tried to promote a cult I doubt you're going to convince people of what you're trying to convince them off, in fact it would probably make them less receptive to your notion of freedom and more enthusiastic about the crackdown on minorities with distinct cultures

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teachings_of_Falun_Gong#On_rac...

Nothing weirder than any other religion.

>Falun Gong is a notorious cult

Regardless of whether this is true or not, I fail to see how it in any way justifies the level of persecution (extrajudicial imprisonment, torture, killing, organ harvesting etc.) endured by the group:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong#Persecution

That conservative newspaper Epoch Times run by a Falun Gong dude as well, although my family doesn't seem to care because they like the articles..

Tell me what I can do

These values seem to be incompatible with the aims and actions of the Chinese (system of) government.

This might sound like a joke, but I believe spreading that info about Uyghurs to your friends in social networks might be the first thing to do. Western governments do nothing about this situation because voters do not ask/pressure them, which is in turn, because most western citizens don't really know (I suppose) how bad is the situation with human rights in China.

Most people I know have already heard about it. But there is no attention nor outrage.

Which specific measures could (a community of) governments take to incentivize or enforce the rights declared in this document?

impose tariffs on imports derived from violations of these rights, or restrict sales of products sourced from companies that use forced work, for example.

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