Nazism?
disclaimer: found on Google, unsure of context / if these people are core developers, just sharing for those who like me were also confused
But, to be clear, there are three things here:
1) They're doing a Tiki Torch walk, during a time when it was heavily politicised.
2) They're adapting Nazi slogans as hostnames
3) They're denigrating "Cultural Marxism".
Any one of these alone I would probably defend, but 3 is a pattern and not a good one.
No it wasn't; just in the US. Not everyone in the world is obsessed with the latest drama in the US.
I've done many torchwalks with scouts. In fact, they're used to celebrate the end of the Nazi occupation in my home town every single year on Sept 18th. Should we stop doing this because some yahoos on the other side of the world used some torches in some far-right march? This is "Hitler has a moustache, you have a moustache, ergo you must be a Nazi"-kind of logic.
> 2) They're adapting Nazi slogans as hostnames
A private server belonging to a single person, not the project. I have asked him plainly and directly about that and he avoided the question. I am also not impressed by this, but that doesn't make him a Nazi, and it certainly doesn't make everyone involved in the project a Nazi.
> 3) They're denigrating "Cultural Marxism".
A single person is (same one as the hostname). And like I said, there is a lot more to that conversation than the screenshot makes it out to be as there was a lot of confusion about what's intended with "cultural marxism". I really recommend you read the entire conversation in full, and while I don't personally agree with their take, it's also really not that bad.
In Germany the association between fascism and torch marches is even stronger and absolute a political symbol, it's an unambigious symbol that nobody adopts accidentally, and it is a contemporary political issue. So called 'Fackelmärsche' by far-right fraternities and far-right groups have been an issue over recent years.(https://www.dw.com/en/germany-torch-wielding-neo-nazis-march...)
Where do you think American Neo-Nazis get their symbolism from? The US invents a lot of culture, but this one is sadly on us.
Torch walks are not exclusively associated with or invented by the far right. They were adopted by the far right from pre-existing traditions in the regional cultures.
Considering the KKK were using torches before nazis existed the relationship goes the other way if anything: https://depts.washington.edu/civilr/kkk_rallies.htm
The torch has been used for thousands of years in many contexts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torch#Symbolism), quite often as a form of intimidation but not always.
Is the Statue of Liberty a nazi symbol because she holds a torch?
I wasn't there. Maybe they were talking about the "final solution" for the Jews. I don't think they were, but there is no way for me to know for certain. But lacking any evidence of this, I find such a grave accusation based on such incredibly thin evidence – especially when stated like it's almost a certainty – deeply troubling.
I use st, it's one of the best terminal emulators I've found, and I'm not going to stop using it just because some possibly-associated dev made a kinda-sorta-tasteless joke when they named some random server.
You can think marxism sucks (I do) without torchlight marches and nazi naming schemes.
The latter is something else.
And I still don't know what's wrong with a torchlight hike/march. (They call it a hike, you call it a march) It sounds like something I'd do.
Stop with the cultural imperialism, race relations in the US are rather unique.
The torches are used as a symbol - might be nothing, but paired with speaking out against cultural marxism it's more likely to be intentional than it otherwise would be.
I don't know, but I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt since the mail server is fairly explicit if true.
When people tell you who they are, believe them.
> these mails originate from a host called "wolfsschanze", which appears to be the laptop a certain Laslo Hunhold works from (their conf organizer?)
-- the tweet in the thread that you're mentioning