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I don't know about Signal, but Telegram blurs the lines between a messaging app and a more general purpose social network. Telegram has public groups (supporting 100s of thousands of users) and channels that feature comment sections. It wouldn't surprise me if Telegram ends up getting banned by app stores because of their resilience and respect of privacy.

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Admittedly, I don't know about Telegram. But I would probably guess the distinction is still there because if I had to guess Telegram doesn't advertise those groups, you have to look for them, which decreases the condition of "audibly hearing the discussion." Where as Parler being a social media platform first wants to encourage the network effect and engagement among it's users, thus encouraging this open discussion and connection among potentially dangerous elements.

Again in my non legal estimation of the law (not that I think anything I'm currently suggesting has been tried in court).

I'd say telegram isn't likely to get banned from app stores as there is intentionally no support for e2ee in group chats, and dm's aren't also e2ee by default.

This. No one I know uses the E2EE chats in Telegram. They go with the default and they heard Telegram is "secure". To add to the inconvenience the secure chats do not sync between devices.

Also, you just can't use E2EE on the desktop clients, and they have stated that they have no intention of fixing that.

https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/118#issue...

Works on the native macOS client though.

Didn't Apple get pushed to tell Telegram to get rid of posts in Belarus? If they hadn't made a deal out of it while also refusing to delete the posts, a ban could have been in their future.

Parler wasn't e2e encrypted.

The reason Parler was banned was not being willing or able to moderate the content. Telegram would only be banned, based on this info, if they weren't going to do the same thing.

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