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Because they tried to overthrow an election.

Have they colluded with Russia again?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-cyber/se...

"A Senate Intelligence Committee report released on Tuesday supports three U.S. intelligence agencies’ conclusion that Russia tried to help Donald Trump win the 2016 U.S. presidential election."

Are you saying there wasn't collusion?

That article says Russia meddled in the election. There is nothing there to say they did it in coordination with Trump or any of his staff.

Mueller determined the Russians were interfering in the election, but there was no evidence linking Trump to those efforts.

Given it was the largest such investigation of it's kind in history with hundreds of witnesses, many of them 'flipped' and singing like birds to avoid jail including Trump's own personal lawyer - it seems there was no collusion.

Trump's friends were dirty with Russian money, they were caught lying - and even worse, Trump was apparently trying to obstruct justice.

So it's all very bad, but there was no collusion.

Many Americans believe there was collusion, which is a belief not based on evidence - you can see the massive irony here.

As far as the RNC - if they were involved in the insurrection, then ban them, otherwise I don't think the should be banned as this is going to get out of hand very quickly.

Many citizens and police officers died this summer of protests, even if they had more of a kind of legitimacy, they were still obviously dangerous and destructive, and many people supported the violence directly.

Around the world, there is all sorts of crazy stuff going on, FB is being accused of hosting some genocidal propaganda in SE Asia, it's going to get rough, we need clear thinking and guidelines. I don't trust corporate America to be the world's arbiter of information.

So, USA presidential election process is weak and can be "hacked". Right?

I believe Russia's goal in that work was not to get Trump in but to destabilize. They are certainly succeeding.

Did they specifically? From what I understand it was Trump, his supporters, and administration. A lot of republicans hate him and never supported him. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.

The RNC specifically, yes. They were sending out this email on Jan 6:

> “Every single Patriot from across the Country must step up RIGHT NOW if we’re going to successfully DEFEND the integrity of this Election.”

Do you have a source for that? I would like to see the rest of the email. I tried a Google search, but could not find anything from a source I was confident is reliable.

Here's one that I have dated Jan 6th:

<FistName>,

The Vice President is right. TODAY will be a crucial milestone in our months-long effort to DEFEND Election integrity.

Over 100 Members of Congress plan to object to the Election results, because they share the concerns of millions of Americans about voting irregularities. This is our last line of defense, <FistName>.

President Trump and Vice President Pence will never stop fighting to deliver you a FAIR and HONEST Election, and now they need to know they have your support.

For a short time, when you contribute to the Official Defend America Fund, you can increase your impact by 1000%.

We’re calling on our STRONGEST allies to step up to the front lines of this nasty battle. With your help, we’ll uncover the TRUTH.

Please contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to the Official Defend America Fund and you can increase your impact by 1000%. >>

Join America's Defenders

CONTRIBUTE $250 = $2750

CONTRIBUTE $100 = $1100

CONTRIBUTE $50 = $550

CONTRIBUTE $45 = $495

CONTRIBUTE ANY AMOUNT

Your support has never been more critical than it is RIGHT NOW, <FistName>.

President Trump will be reviewing a list of EVERY Patriot who stepped up when he needed them most. Can he count on you?

Contribute ANY AMOUNT TODAY to support your President and you can increase your impact by 1000%.

Thank you,

Team Trump

Here's another one I got dated Jan 6th:

<FistName>,

We need to make sure you’re aware of how important today is.

Congress will vote this afternoon to certify, or object to, the Election results. Over 100 Members of Congress have vowed to fight for President Trump and OBJECT TO the results because they are concerned about voting irregularities and potential fraud.

The stakes have NEVER been higher, <FistName>. President Trump needs YOU to make a statement and publicly stand with him and FIGHT BACK.

Let’s get 1,000,000 signatures from Americans supporting their President and Vice President and DEMAND transparency.

Please add your name NOW to stand with President Trump and Vice President Pence against the Election results. >>

STAND WITH YOUR PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT

CONFIRM YOUR INFORMATION:

President Trump and Vice President Pence are really counting on your support right now, <FistName>.

We’re sending them a list of EVERY Patriot who steps up today. Make sure they see your name.

Please add your name IMMEDIATELY to publicly stand with President Trump and Vice President Pence.

Thank you,

Team Trump

And here's one on Jan 5th. Apparently this kind of verbiage will get you deplatformed now?

<FistName>,

Is it true that voting machines were not working earlier in certain Republican Congressional Districts for over an hour? If so, we must remain vigilant.

Is the LEFT going to STEAL this Senate Runoff Election? Did they STEAL the Presidential Election? I’m counting on you to step up to the front lines with me and FIGHT BACK!

1000% IMPACT: ACTIVATED!

I’ve requested to see a list of EVERY Patriot who donates to this email. Make sure I see your name. This is our last stance to defend our Nation and defend Democracy.

Please contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to PROTECT our Republican Senate Majority and to DEFEND the Election. >>

We Need to Win BIG!

CONTRIBUTE $250 = $2750

CONTRIBUTE $100 = $1100

CONTRIBUTE $50 = $550

CONTRIBUTE $45 = $495

CONTRIBUTE ANY AMOUNT

Thank you,

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