I don't like where this is heading.
China has blocked millions of “discredited” travellers from buying plane or train tickets as part of the country’s controversial “social credit” system aimed at improving the behaviour of citizens. - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/01/china-bans-23m...
I'll get concerned the second time it happens. But these are extraordinary circumstances.
On an American Airlines flight from Dallas, a large contingent of Trump supporters got in an angry yelling match with other passengers after one of the president’s supporters projected “Trump 2020” on the cabin ceiling and walls.
>You should know that the government’s summary likely will not include all of its reasons for your placement on the list, and in some cases the government will choose not to provide any summary at all. The government also will not provide you any of the evidence it relied upon in deciding to place you on the list, and it may also withhold information in its possession that undercuts its basis for putting you on the list. Finally, the government does not provide a live hearing at which you could testify or give you an opportunity to cross-examine witnesses against you.
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-you-think-y...
You really should be careful what you wish for because at this rate, you're probably going to get it and much more of it than you ever imagined.
Terrorism is an over-applied label that is used to stoke FUD and expand executive power; yep I agree with that and I don’t use the term lightly.
Joining an organized movement to overturn a legal democratic election, breaking into the capitol, armed, and bludgeoning an officer to death is terrorism and a private company has every right to deny these people the privilege of flying on their airlines.
Whether it could do with more oversight is an independent question, with no shortage of people to ask it.
U.S. federal law protects individuals from discrimination or harassment based on the following nine protected classes: sex, race, age, disability, color, creed, national origin, religion, or genetic information (added in 2008).
Al Qaeda burns people to death in metal cages.
The Trump riot was basically people taking stupid selfies. They were very violent to the building. But I've not seen any violence toward other people.
Goodness, then you haven't been looking very hard. Perhaps you haven't seen this? https://youtu.be/cJOgGsC0G9U?t=1224
The NYTimes also ran this story today: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/pelosi-threat-Clevelan...
> Is that some kind of sick joke? Al Qaeda burns people to death in metal cages.
Hate groups in the US have a long history of committing heinous murders and lynchings. Here's one such example which seems on par with your description of burnings in metal cages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_of_Jesse_Washington
I don't doubt that there are members of hate groups in the US today that would commit such acts and that many of them are among Trump's most avid supporters; probably even among those that broke into the Capitol Wednesday. Let's please not pretend like that kind of violence isn't possible in Trump's America.
Let's also not forget Trump's own personal legacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump#1927_arrest
> Perhaps you haven't seen this?
You have got to be kidding me - some people shoving riot police is comparable to burning people alive in metal cages? The people in the front are not even hitting the police, they are just pushing.
> Hate groups in the US
Why are we switching to other groups suddenly?
> I don't doubt
So basically you are making up imaginary things, then assuming people will do them?
> Trump's own personal legacy
A story about his father is somehow relevant?
Look, I will say it again, what they did at the capitol was abhorrent. But your comparison with Al Qaeda is indescribably worse. I'm utterly stunned to be having this conversation with you - it's like I'm living in some kind of alternate reality world.
Aee you serious? Do you have even the remotest idea just how disgusting your comparison is?
> You have got to be kidding me - some people shoving riot police is comparable to burning people alive in metal cages?
I didn't make that comparison and I don't think most people would have interpreted my remarks as having done that. You're putting words in my mouth. You made this statement in your previous post:
"The Trump riot was basically people taking stupid selfies. They were very violent to the building. But I've not seen any violence toward other people."
The linked video of rioters shoving police was intended to show you that it was terribly wrong and somewhat careless to think that what happened was the same as "taking stupid selfies."
> Why are we switching to other groups suddenly?
My point was that it's reasonable to say that these are not "other groups." It's already been shown I think pretty widely by many reputable news organizations that some of Trump's most ardent supporters are members of hard core white supremacist groups. The link to the article about Jesse Washington's lynching was intended to show you that it's also reasonable to think that such groups are capable of violence that is on the same level as burning people in metal cages. That kind of violence exists in the US's own history of hate motivated crimes. The rioters that broke into capitol had erected a make shift gallows outside of the building. They were also heard chanting and saying things like "Hang Mike Pence" and "Heads on a Pike." Just let that sink in for a bit. What do you think would have happened if, say, they had run across AOC in the hallways given that she's been consistently demonized for the past two years? They were carrying signs saying "Nancy Pelosi is Satan." What would have happened if they had found her? Why is anyone still giving these people the benefit of the doubt?
> A story about his father is somehow relevant?
Yes, because it appears that Trump's father may have been a member of the KKK.
> Look, I will say it again, what they did at the capitol was abhorrent. But your comparison with Al Qaeda is indescribably worse.
Worse than what? The attack on the capitol? If that's what you meant, that's not a very serious comment.
> I'm utterly stunned to be having this conversation with you - it's like I'm living in some kind of alternate reality world. Aee you serious? Do you have even the remotest idea just how disgusting your comparison is?
Yes, I'm quite serious. Don't think that throwing insults at me is going to change my mind.
With all that being said, I think this conversation has outgrown its usefulness and I won't be making any further replies.
> high tech terrarium
I'm not familiar with this term, maybe it comes from a phrase that is difficult to translate? I searched Google for "high tech terrarium" but the links were all about gardening and farming.