Google suspends Parler from Play Store for failure to moderate egregious content
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> We’re aware of continued posting in the Parler app that seeks to incite ongoing violence in the US. In light of this ongoing and urgent public safety threat, we are suspending the app’s listings from the Play Store until it addresses these issues.
This didn't happen until Trump was booted from Twitter and reported to have joined Parler.
Keep it creepy, Google.
I came on here just to check what the “young intellectual tech” community thinks— I consider myself part of it. I’m a 20-something female, born in the heart of Silicon Valley, and have been heavily involved in tech during my short career.
Heads up: This isn’t animal farm, this is 1984!
I never post on here and stopped reading awhile ago due to the one-minded propaganda I consistently find on the site these days (i was a lurker a longtime before i made this account) but I feel compelled to share my opinion because these times matter, and us young (and old) folks matter.
Amen and a-women? Welcome to the best addition to New Speak. Please look that up if you don’t know what it is. Have you zoomed out on how Big (and Little) Tech had subtle involvement here? And how they may be affecting how you’re thinking? I can personally say after having deleted social media for almost 2 years, and combing through different sources (time consuming)- I feel very differently now than I did four years, or eight years ago. See my links below.
“I don’t like Trump” and “not being a Trump supporter,” standing behind Big Tech — the badges of honor on Hacker News. But here’s my practical advice: be very careful who you’re choosing. Everything in life is a trade off— even who’s in the White House, who’s in office, who you’re casting your votes for, the apps you use, and the companies you give your money and support to.
Another piece of advice: for some laughs, and practical news these days, check out AwakenwithJP and Brett Pella :-) (seriously all their videos are pretty good, especially JP!)
Another piece: Hear other perspectives “i was wrong about the Democratic Party,” Georgia H.
Finally, I’ll close with this recommendation: “when the plague arrives,” NTD.
Hope you hackers open your big brains, put your thinking caps on and leave confirmation bias in the past.
Free speech absolutism has never been a thing on the internet so I'm not surprised he was banned after inciting a mob to attack the nations capital.
Child porn != Video promoting peace by President Trump
Child porn != Speaking freely about election fraud, and spreading information as such.
The difference is child porn is clearly illegal, while the other things are clearly not. Children are being hurt, which is illegal. These comparisons are stretches, just like your logic.
Hope you watch now! Stay open minded :-)
You must then agree, by the framing of your answer, that this is no longer a conversation about free speech and about whether or not Trump incited violence. It's clear that you understand that if it were Trump promoting violence, that my comparison wouldn't be such a stretch. So can we agree to not waste our time discussing the merits free speech?
Google and Apple are deplatforming Parler for inciting violence - and enforcing no moderation towards users that do so. If you want to argue that "inciting violence" is not "clearly illegal" then I'm willing to watch videos that support that case, but you should make it clear that is your position, and not a general one about "free speech".
You lost me honest to God, and I am going to leave this here... I still stand by my original statement, acknowledging my choice of words isn’t perfect but the main idea is there. And thanks for watching the videos, and for the short discourse. It’s been fun, God Bless!
I deleted it because I didn't want to muddy my argument - I had a feeling you would focus on my critique of the video and avoid addressing my actual argument (which you did). I stand my critique of the video being a strawman, but ultimately I think it is irrelevant to the argument I was making.
Unfortunately, whenever I make this argument free speech "absolutists" are unable to answer or resort to circular arguments. If you do still standby your original statement, I hope you will consider the implications of such a statement which imply you are also willing to defend child pornographers from censorship.
The line I drew is based on the law regarding child pornography— the example you’ve chosen to make a point.
There is no point... because it’s illegal? While the other examples I gave aren’t illegal? It’s pretty simple, and you’re lengthy replies are stretching an illogical point :-/
Edit: You are claiming I’m an absolutist... I’m unaware of this term, because there’s no such thing— I live in a country where laws exist (see above)
Happy Sunday... hope it makes sense.
If you are somewhat younger, you probably can't imagine living differently, so in an odd way, you are more (small-c) conservative.
- YouTube says it will no longer allow users to upload videos claiming that President Trump lost the 2020 presidential election due to fraud.
- A video message from president Donald Trump calling for peace and to go home, was deleted by Facebook, Twitter and YouTube on Wednesday as a mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol.
- Many conservative twitter users are reporting significant drops in followers, likely because many small accounts are being purged too.
- Reddit banned /r/DonaldTrump, the largest pro-Trump forum on the site, and Discord banned the server “The Donald” while acknowledging there was no evidence the chat played any role in inciting violence at all.
- Michael Flynn was kicked off Twitter permanently
- Steve Bannon’s YouTube channel was permanently suspended.
- Parler was taken off Google’s Google Play store, and Apple has threatened to follow suit.
- Twitch, a streaming service owned by Amazon, and Snapchat, both suspended Trump’s accounts.
- Shopify took down two online stores affiliated with Trump, one belonging to his campaign and the other to the Trump Organization.
- Finally — Trump’s Twitter and Facebook is indefinitely suspended until “at least” the inauguration.
I am not even mentioning the hypocrisy that has occurred... No effort by these companies, or anyone really, to stop violence by leftist causes. No such drastic measures taken. If you know something I don’t, again— make me informed.
I’m sure I haven’t covered all of it. But please, out of respect and the sharing of ideas: I ask for 15 minutes of your time (don’t know why i care so much lol) but seriously! Give these a watch, he does a much better job than I can covering why this is relevant to free speech and censorship, in a succinct manner:
I never said it wasn’t censorship or even that the system was fair, just that it’s not a violation in any way of the first amendment.
And let me add, this issue is certainly from a more direct angle than the one all these companies have taken: silencing a group of people even though you’re unable to directly link “incite violence “ to all events, all people, and all platforms unilaterally.
Cheers to the future removal of 230! That’s coming, no matter what’s next (AFAIK, both sides are for that) Unless of course... a back deal has somehow been made which we don’t know about.
Section 230 repeal fixed things how?
It’s the people who work for the “government,” working directly with corporations to suppress speech.
230 won’t protect corporations from libel suits filed against them. On top of the massive suit coming from John Matze, many more will follow.
Happy Sunday