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I can be wrong, but on Telegram E2E is not default. Those are used only in 'secret chats', which I believe are not recoverable.

So you can use regular texting for everything you don't care much about, like sending youtube videos and memes to your friends, and use the secret chat to things that re more sensitive. That's great for most people that currently use Whatsapp

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How is that great? On whatsapp everything you do is E2E by default.

* normal ppl care about chat history more than encryption, and telegram can be accessed from many devices without tethering from one (a la whatsapp). If you want E2EE anyway, you can use E2EE chats.

* Whatsapp is closed source, so you can't tell if the encryption is true anyway (what if they are transmitting your private key?). Telegram has open source implementation and API.

* Facebook will not have your metadata. The subject of these events is basically FB having too much of data about you.

In my case, I care more about being able to use it without depending on my phone, than E2E. The single thing I hate the most on any messenger is my phone having to be on and online, for me to send/receive messages on my computer

Not my field but: https://core.telegram.org/api/end-to-end

Right, that's not the default option.

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