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> Can someone explain why they would buy a Mac and install linux?

Because OSX, besides being a user prison, is certainly far from being as good as their hardware.

Can we stop the "user prison" stuff?

I've got an iMac 2020 here, I log into iTerm2 and macports has every things I want, installed cleanly and co-operatively with the Apple frameworks and kernel.

I'm running Firefox and Thunderbird and Office 365, all native. I also have suppler supported clients for iMessage, Whatsapp, Telegram, Skype, Spotify (whether Electron or not).

I have developer utilities like Dash, which is one of the best documentation browsers ever, I have native UI neovim with VimR, I have menu bar utilities for monitoring, cloud sync with Google and Microsoft (and iCloud if I wanted).

How exactly am I in a user prison? I'm running the Beta Big Sur and the only bug so far is that the Karabiner kext doesn't load.

Have you tried the version that uses a system extension rather than a kext?

Still leagues better than Linux.

I have to agree. I’ve tried to be a desktop Linux user for 20 years unsuccessfully. It only ever gets to 80% done and then they go and break everything. At least Apple get to 95% :)

Quite some prison that allows you to install linux and whatever other software you'd like.

Really? Because my Mac by default nags the crap out of anything downloaded, and does this best to block applications that haven't paid various Apple Taxes.

I don’t have that experience.

How can you not? Unless you sign your app with your Dev cert, that you pay Apple for, Apple won't let your app run without going under the hood and fuck around with permissions.

Fact check: false.

https://www.wikihow.com/Install-Software-from-Unsigned-Devel...

Nope. fact check true. Unsigned software will not run on a Mac without having to jump through hoops to enable each app.

I predominantly use open source software, and a lot is not signed.

So do I, and I never have to sign any of it or jump through hoops.

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