Huawei Tops Intel as Top Linux Kernel Contributor for 5.10
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Lines of code are not a good metric for the importance of the contributions. You can see that the top developer actually made a single 26k loc commit that just removed a driver.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5....
Wouldn't more lines of code give someone more chance to slip in backdoors?
sorry you spent too much time on "learning", we need more "corbet-curve-units" from you.
In this case I think a lot of people are wondering what they changed. Would it be possible to extract that info from the paths modified, filtered with some handwritten rules to classify the changes? For example, did they commit driver code for their own hardware, or did they touch other areas of the kernel? How much of each?
WireGuard for example is only a relatively small changeset, but has an huge impact for many uses, you can find many comments, posts, write ups, about it all over the internet. Many knew that this feature was going to be huge, well before merge into linux.
On the other hand, if almost no one is discussing a particular change (e.g. the removal of 20k lines of driver code), then the impact will either be very low and unimportant or it will unexpectedly become important, but there was no way you could have known it beforehand.
They basically placed their offices right across their competitors like Ericsson, Nokia, Imagination, etc. to the point that in every European Tech hub you will find a Huawei office.
If only Nokia hadn't got dragged down by the Symbian fools
"Unfortunately, this was only the tip of the iceberg. Siilasmaa later learned that the overall build time of Symbian was two weeks." https://www.flashover.blog/posts/technical-debt/
Edit: it seems the compilation time was 2 days in that article, I wonder what the rest was.
And, instead of adopting Windows for future Macs, Apple was going all-in on Solaris.
And, Steve Jobs had just stepped down as interim CEO, and his replacement just happened to be a former Sun Microsystems executive.
And, Apple's investors were apparently okay with this.
I firmly believe that Nokia could have become a major player if they'd stayed the course with Meego-Harmatton. I owned a Nokia N9, the one phone that ran it, and it was great!.
The UI was very different from iOS, but it had all of the iPhone's polish and purposeful design. I greatly preferred it for several reasons: multi-tasking, for instance, was far more seamless than what iOS could do at the time.
Nokia's timing was right, too, and unlike Microsoft, Nokia had a deep history in the mobile space. They really could have made something.
The researchers get payed very well, but what (to those I met) was even more important: they get all the assistance they want, plus 1. As one of them told me "I hate doing things twice. I now do not have to. I think of something, try to get it to work and I am done. The grinding is done for me." A truly very nice environment to do research in, with a boatload of resources at their fingertips.
Just check the number of patents Huawei [0] holds.
A lot of Chinese firms knowingly violates IP laws in the past, because they understand there is not enough resources to enforce them. Additionally, Chinese government has been very open about the plan to enforce IP laws gradually to the same standard as the global market. A good balance has been played to allow rapid advancement without provoking the more advanced economies.
> Chinese government has been very open about the plan to enforce IP laws gradually to the same standard as the global market.
IMHO, these two statements contradict themselves.
Being serious about IP is to respect a rule of game, and not actually enforce it is out of necessity (are you expecting a sweat shop to actually pay loyalty and produces actual profit?) and actual recognition that building up the mechanisms of innovation will take time.
I worked in the NL hardware business over a decade back and that was the exact mentality management there had in regards to China and Chinese workers.
Huawei decided to place a new R&D team which focuses on network cameras in the same building were the Axis HQ are located, in Lund.
EDIT: Source (in Swedish): https://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.712002/huawei-kamerav...
they insist Chinese law is used outside China, and lecture people how they should refer to China in public;
they operate concentration camps;
the Chinese language has no word for *mutuality*, China benefits from free speech and access to institutions in the West but doesn't allow the same in China for journalists or businessmen;
China treats Chinese-speaking minority in Western countries as Chinese citizens, and even blackmails them by threating their family;
Winnie the Pooh is extremely thin-skinned and can have games like Devotion removed from Steam and GOG even after the reference is removed from the secret area in the game;
there are many instances where businesses with Chinese shareholders were pressured not to publish anything mildly critical of China.
BBC team visiting China investigating covid19 faced obstacles reminiscent of The Truman Show;
WHO scientists investigating covid19 recently not permitted into China;
China doesn't even formally frown at corruption;
Journalists disappear or regularly get sentences in China;
Yeah, yeah, "whataboutism". BTW, Chinese values, or Chinese government values? I'm sure the average Chinese would speak up if they knew they wouldn't end up in reeducation camp. Yeah I'll give you one thing, at least in the West it's still possible to speak up.
Meanwhile, in Washington DC at the moment, there are violence-ready Americans openly demanding democracy be ignored and to install their preferred fuckwit as ruler. Seems like they're just as brainwashed as a Chinese who's been fed CCP propaganda.
I'm not impressed by ruthless politicians. Ruthlessness is good for action movie thrills. It takes much more skill and leadership to forge compromises and unite people using respect. By the way Spartans sucked even at combat, they just had really good PR. No matter how you slice it, they were completely average, even if you exclude naval battles or battles which included their allies.
(extremely long reads for those interested in history)
https://acoup.blog/2019/08/16/collections-this-isnt-sparta-p...
https://acoup.blog/2020/01/17/collections-the-fremen-mirage-...
re: whataboutism. Whataboutism has no place here because it's not even on the same order of magnitude. You're comparing tons to kilograms. We don't even know the full extent of what China is doing because free press is not allowed to operate there, doctors and journalists get sentences.
What is the average standard of living in China 50 years ago vs today? There has been remarkable growth for millions of people. If your standard of living was 10x your parents, you might not view life as that bad?
They're touchy about people recognizing what they view as separatist movements, but that's relatively minor compared to, say, the United States forcing its sanctions policy on the rest of the world. Everyone around the world is afraid of doing business with Cuba, Iran, Huawei, and other targets of US sanctions, because the US aggressively applies secondary sanctions. The US is even sanctioning Germany, its own ally, in order to try to force Germany to back out of a pipeline deal with Russia.
> the Chinese language has no word for mutuality
There are many ways to say "win-win" in Chinese, and if you ever listen to Chinese diplomats, they say that phrase incessantly.
> China doesn't even formally frown at corruption;
One of Xi Jinping's most highly publicized policies (inside China) is his anti-corruption campaign. This is practically his signature policy. You can argue the policy isn't in effective or isn't sincere, but to say that corruption isn't formally frowned upon us just wrong.
> WHO scientists investigating covid19 recently not permitted into China;
China hasn't processed their visas quickly. I'd wait a bit before passing judgment.
My impression is that the PRC was sabre-rattling to rally the public.
In Western news coverage, though, I see precisely the opposite of what you see. Taiwan is often listed as an example to follow, while China's combating of the epidemic is largely ignored. A lot of people even seem to think that the epidemic is still raging in China, but that it's all just being covered up.
b) No one believes anything China has to say because they have a history of coverups and suppression.
c) The lack of an independent press or judiciary means we don't have mechanisms to independently assess the truth.
You can also look coverage by Western press in China. A German-French public broadcaster did a report from Wuhan not too long ago that shows how different the situation is there from Europe and the US: [1,2].
By the way, documents from Hubei province have leaked, and the number of people testing positive for SARS-CoV-2 in internal government records roughly matches the numbers that were published each day.
1. German: https://youtu.be/LmsI7lc2_Vg
2. French: https://youtu.be/OyHt7-KmK7Y
List A: These 2 guys are thinkers then others. They should be working on different job. Expecially in Western intellegence to help westener better undrestading China)
1. Cyrus Janssen(American)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxEQsjgRRfGWiJJu_PDygxw
2. Daniel Dumbrill(Canadian)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6Bl8MTbW9M9MQoPhxbarpw
List B: (Positive)
3 Matt (American)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Ykci4MKSSdTJYuYp53G7A
4 Gweilo 60 (Canadian. Mainly positive. He also talked about negative side)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChXOhG9bRDb3vSTg-qkPAZg
5 Jason(British)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzDE2LGSmJnw53WrZ7mM_Aw
6 Nathan Rish(American. Seem a little opinionted)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaSlyjhR4WC7QhYuaivxb6g
List C: (Negative, but was positive)
7 serpentza (South African, the oldest vlogger about China)
https://www.youtube.com/user/serpentza
8 laowhy86 (American)
https://www.youtube.com/user/laowhy86
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Yes, I heard about it plenty of times.
It's great that they're doing well, but that doesn't diminish the Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, Newzealandese accomplishments in tackling covid19
The US has not sanctioned Germany. E.g. a US company subject to the EU Global Human Rights sanctions regime does not mean the EU is sanctioning the US.
I love how you refer to mass kidnapping of protestors from Hong Kong "touchy".
That is such a ridiculous claim considering that Xi Jinping strengthened his power through anti-corruption efforts:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-corruption_campaign_und...
"they insist Chinese law is used outside China, and lecture people how they should refer to China in public;"
"they operate concentration camps;"
"the Chinese language has no word for *mutuality*"
"China benefits from free speech"
"Winnie the Pooh is extremely thin-skinned and can have games like Devotion removed from Steam and GOG even after the reference is removed from the secret area in the game;"
"there are many instances where businesses with Chinese shareholders were pressured not to publish anything mildly critical of China."
"BBC team visiting China investigating covid19 faced obstacles reminiscent of The Truman Show;"
"WHO scientists investigating covid19 recently not permitted into China;"
"China doesn't even formally frown at corruption;"
Of course you could be playing the long game as well like with Dual-EC-DRBG
[0] https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2013/10/09/the-linux-backdoor-...
[1] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/nsa-ask-linus-torvalds-i...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gRsgkdfYJ8
For anyone not good with faces the guy responding is Linus Torvalds who created and still manages Linux.
Unpopular opinion, but if I had to choose between China and the U.S. spying on me, I would pick the one who's less likely to have me extradited from whatever country I am in or ban me from flying.
So you're definitely safer with the US than you are with china.
Frankly, I despise what the American government did to Assange and Manning. However, you can't even remotely compare their fate to what is happening every day to hundreds and thousands of people in different parts of China like Tibet. You have no chance of escaping, no chance of trial not to mention any appeal, your life can be destroyed in an instant. Several people in Tibet each year prefer to self-immolate than live under the terrible conditions imposed by the Chinese government.
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-harvesting-organs-of-u...
But for an American, China doesn't have the ability to do any of that stuff. Nor are they likely to have any reason to care about my actions. While on the other hand, the USA has direct powers over me, and is likely to care more because I'm here.
So sure, China and the CCP are evil, probably much more evil than the US government. But even at that, the danger they pose to a typical US citizen is much less than that of their own government. So it's rational prefer, say, a Chinese-made phone to a US-made one.
https://qz.com/india/632077/quietly-a-tibetan-teenager-in-in...
To me, this does not speak about extreme suffering in Tibet, but rather:
1- A very strong sense of self-sacrifice and pride in their community
2- A very effective propaganda machine that persuades even people who haven't experienced suffering first-hand, to make the extreme sacrifice in support of the cause
Perhaps it was edited?
All changes to The Linux kernel are getting publicly reviewed, so the hard thing is passing this technical review if you want to introduce a backdoor. If people know you, based on previous contributions, the review could be less hard, so it could make sense to build up a reputation before. In the Linux kernel not the company builds up the reputation, but the individual engineer who contributes. If this is a Huawei hardware it could be easier for an engineer with a Huawei mail address to get changes integrated, because people assume he known the driver and hardware well and people trust claims like, "this can not happen because the closed source firmware takes care of this".
If the Chinese intelligence agency wants to integrate a backdoor into mainline Linux it would be easier to just build up some own fake identities and use them. It probably would be easier to just analyze the Linux kernel and use bugs introduced by other people.
The NSA also contributed to the Linux kernel, look for contributes from a nsa.gov mail address.
Or reports them, so the NSA can fix them: https://git.kernel.org/linus/3a2f5a59a695a73e0cde9a61e0feae5...
I've seen nothing logical that came out of Trumps silly blacklisting except cashing out on the reputation the US had for pennies on the dollar. China is destined to be Europe and the US combined in term of tech. Time will tell if their culture causes problem for them.
Smart high intelligence people + strong work ethic + competition and not rent seeking by incumbents. They're only second to Israel in terms of average human intelligence.
Every top math Olympiad participant representing the US is of Chinese ethnicity/descent, this should be noted.
What IP did Huawei steal? 5G?
And I called it ethnicity/descent already.
Genetics control how we look physically across all races, there is no black magic that suddenly makes every race equal in intelligence and behavior while only controlling for physical differences. Uphold your social ideals but don’t let your ideals blind you from the cold hard truth.
The white supremacist sees himself as superior even though reality says he clearly isn’t and you see everything as equal even though it clearly isn’t the case. The truth is far more complex. But that is irrelevant to you. You don’t care about the truth, you only care about defeating your enemy, the white supremacist.
Thats why your childish response tries to turn the whole topic into a war against your personal enemy. Almost no one here is a white supremacist so your statement serves no one other than yourself.
How can I say so much about your character without really knowing you? First off you made a huge logical error that reveals your biases.
IQ scores do not make white people look good. They make Asians look smart. If anything IQ scores will be utilized by Asian supremacists NOT white supremacists. It is totally illogical to think that IQ scores are used by white supremacists when Asians have Superior scores.
Yet here you are calling it a white supremacist dog whistle. Totally illogical. So why do you do it? Again the only reason here is because your statement serves your own personal biases. My advice to you is to to cast your biases aside and try to be more logical. You are a software engineer and logical thought is a required trait for all software engineers so it's good for you to train for this because clearly you lack training in this area.
The cold hard truth is that there isn't a single study identifying any kind of racial component to IQ (and please supply one if you know different).
The reason it's a white supremecist dog whistle is that any theory that suggests that character has anything to do with race allows racists to say that "they are like this, therefore we must treat them like this". Also, nazism - the Nazis were huge believers in racial differences.
If we can agree that individual differences in IQ massively outweigh all other factors (in that there are low-IQ asians, and high-IQ white folks) then any kind of racial profiling around this is just racism. You cannot conclude anything about an individual from their race.
And you're not controlling for cultural differences. I've spent time in Asia, and the cultural differences are enormous. Massively outweighing any genetic differences.
Then cite your science. Don't give me some one sentence response with no evidence.
>The cold hard truth is that there isn't a single study identifying any kind of racial component to IQ (and please supply one if you know different).
I literally stated that the cold hard truth makes this controversial not definitive. There is no single study that race as a causative factor for IQ but there is also no single study that definitively separates IQ and race. This is something hard to measure, but it is highly highly unrealistic to assume that there is zero correlation with IQ and race when all genes control both physical attributes and mental attributes. What we do know is that IQ is correlated with race. This much is true. Correlation doesn't imply causation but it doesn't terminate any possibility of causation either. In fact correlation is a prerequisite to causation.
https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php
Note that for the above Asian countries have vastly different cultures between countries. Also note that despite vastly different cultures the top countries are mostly Asian. Correlation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#Group_di...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18656315/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01602...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20712152/
Actual studies are numerous and produces definitive differences between in IQ between countries AND race. What causes these differences is controversial but the difference and correlations exist (even when accounting for Asians and white people living in the same culture.) There are even studies where the authors conclude that IQ is indeed caused by race. However there are conflicting conclusions that say otherwise. The causation is controversial but the correlation is definitive.
>If we can agree that individual differences in IQ massively outweigh all other factors (in that there are low-IQ asians, and high-IQ white folks) then any kind of racial profiling around this is just racism. You cannot conclude anything about an individual from their race.
I am not arguing for racial profiling. Please do not imply this and turn this into a racist witch hunt. I am arguing for observable facts.
There are low IQ asians and high IQ white people this much is true. But statistics talks in terms of bell curves and generalities. The IQ bell curve for a population of Asians is higher then the IQ bell curve for a population of white people. This fact cannot be denied.
>And you're not controlling for cultural differences. I've spent time in Asia, and the cultural differences are enormous. Massively outweighing any genetic differences.
I am aware of the cultural differences. Show me some studies relating IQ to culture and you have an argument here. However it proves nothing. IQ differences can be influenced by either culture or race or both. There is nothing that definitively proves either factor yet here you are specifically stating that your view is based on science. It is not.
So a better way to talk about this topic is to ignore the word "intelligence" all together. Just talk about how and why Asians have higher IQ.
The debate about whether IQ is "subjective" is ongoing but some things are pretty clearly known. For instance, IQ is highly predictive of many life outcomes, and many different kinds of academic tests all load on a single factor (general intelligence).
This has all been debated up and down the hillsides, and although I don't think IQ is the single measure that defines everything (obviously?), you are premature to dismiss IQ as "subjective". That's far from obvious.
But conversely, if you look at winners of the Fields Medal, Abel Prize, Wolf Prize, Chern Medal etc. There is surprisingly few Chinese recipients despite outnumbering everyone else in total population.
Self-explanatory, I think.
Sure, the power balance just shifted substantially, but it still doesn't change the fact that a significant chunk of its leadership (majority party or otherwise) can't be bothered to understand how search rankings work, or how Facebook makes money.
And this extends at least as far back as the 90s, when Congress shuttered the Office of Technology Assessment, whose literal job was to educate them on these exact sorts of issues.