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I hope this is done with Syria which is destroyed by the Iranian regime and left 10 million Syrians as refugees.

What makes things worse, Syria is sanctioned which means American companies cannot hire any Syrian because there's a legality issue. Meaning even Syrian refugees who fled the country cannot find a proper job.

Your country is destroyed, your life is ruined and yet you cannot restore your career. Being denied your right to work is the worst thing that can happen to anyone after war.

Yet, I think this is the right decision. Good job GitHub and congrats to our fellow Iranian developers.

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Syria is destroyed by American politics as much as it is destroyed by Russian and Iranian politics, and primarily Syrian internal politics. There are a lot of European countries that are willing to hire Syrian refugees without having to make it a humanitarian cause.

> There are a lot of European countries that are willing to hire Syrian refugees without having to make it a humanitarian cause.

Not true.

Basically you have no idea what is sanctions and how it works.

And it is "humanitarian cause" I am not making things up. This is the definition of humanitarian cause.

No. You are wrong.

Syrians living under official refugee status can work in countries where they have this status, at the very least in the EU. If they have that status in a country outside of the EU, I'm not exactly sure about the legal situation but I'd think it's similar to other citizens of the country where they have refugee status.

Source: I'm Syrian and a refugee.

If a company wants to hire me, I don't want it to be for a humanitarian reason, I want it to be based on competence.

If you live in European countries and have permanent residency you are officially not a refugee. You are lucky to be in the EU. Not all Syrians are. And this is not a hypothetical comment. This is what's happening to me as a Syrian refugee who is outside EU/US.

> What makes things worse, Syria is sanctioned which means American companies cannot hire any Syrian because there's a legality issue. Meaning even Syrian refugees who fled the country cannot find a proper job.

My understand is that "a refugee" and having residency (permanent or not) are two separate and unrelated things.

Refugee = outside your country for a specific set of reasons you can find on Wikipedia.

What I meant was that being a refugee doesn't prevent EU companies from hiring you. I'm well aware of how terrible sanctions are, but not all EU countries have the exact same set of blockade/embargo as American ones. In general, work laws and authorization between any two countries that don't have explicit agreement tend to be difficult.

Permanent residency means you are not a refugee anymore and you can work freely because you are authorized as a permanent resident to do so. You have full rights to do what any citizen can do.

I am not going to argue with you or refer you to wikipedia. Instead, you may take a look at any company that hires globally and tells me then what is Syria's status or Syrian national.

This applies to GitHub and all American companies and it's not "work laws" this how financial sector works around the globe.

Another thing quickly, no one is asking to hire on a humanitarian basis. Don't deny people their right to work and profit because of who they are.

  > ... country cannot find a proper job.

As an Iranian who saw many people back home facing sanctions, those sanctions are enforced based on the country of residence and not origin. So refugees are okay to hire, as are Iranians currently residing in other countries.

refugee = outside not inside the country.

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