How Ray Kurzweil’s 1998 predictions about 2019 are faring
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I've visited a dozen countries and I've never encountered an AI system to prevent interpersonal violence. AI gunfire detection system seem to exist solely in a certain country with a tendency to tack startup solutions onto deep-rooted societal issues.
This is a recurring theme throughout the article. The average hospital runs on Windows XP, not a sci-fi network of smart-watches.
Virtual artists are somewhat respected for sure, but AI-generated art is a niche for nerds. I say "art" you think Picasso, not Google Labs.
No, no one passed the actual Turing test yet. The public discussion was doomed from the start, since Turing himself published several variants. This led to an explosion of (mostly dumb IMO) variations that are much easier to solve - which are getting solved.
Honestly, the original predictions are written badly. They are full of bullshit words (many, some, there is) making them not really quantifiable. Also, they contain an implied focus on US tech centers, which allows the existence of a single PR-stunt pilot project as a reason to answer "Totally Right" to anything proposed. Maybe I just don't the point, but this smells like pseudo-intellectual reasoning for "amortality will definitely be achieved before I die, see?"...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_sound_ranging#World_...
Predictions are vague by their very nature and this is a hell of a lot clearer than Nostradamus & co.
>AI gunfire detection system seem to exist solely in a certain country
Don't think you need AI for that. Some cities have had these for a decade plus
Humanity has literally only one way to gain knowledge about the world: Making a testable prediction and then testing it (The Scientific Method).
Just because other people used their authority to make even worse arguments does not mean these are good.
I think Popperian science occupies too large a place in your epistemology. "Science" has come to mean two distinct things: any procedure for arriving at highly reliable knowledge, and one specific procedure for arriving at highly reliable knowledge. The latter is constantly threatening to crowd out the former.
The scientific method itself, for example, would be valid even if no science had ever been done. It is not at all the product of empirical analysis, but of deductive reasoning.
> In March 2015, the Department began employing ShotSpotter, a technology that pinpoints the sound of gunfire with real-time locations, even when no one calls 911 to report it. This technology triangulates where a shooting occurred and alerts police officers to the scene, letting them know relevant information: including the number of shots fired, if the shooter was moving at the time of the incident (e.g., in a vehicle), and the direction of the shooter's movement. ShotSpotter enables a much faster response to the incident and the ability to assist victims, gather evidence, solve crimes, and apprehend suspects more quickly.
> 12. Communication | Haptics let people touch and feel remotely
PREDICTION: Haptic technologies are emerging that allow people to touch and feel objects and other persons at a distance.
ACCURACY: Correct
He basically interpreted his prediction to mean touch screens and some vaporware demo videos or blog posts.
His predictions are often technically a possibility but make virtually no impact on how society functions
https://kurzweilai.net/images/How-My-Predictions-Are-Faring....
> MOSTLY RIGHT
I'll quibble with this one and call it mostly wrong. Yes, a very narrow and specific set of possible cardiac abnormalities can be detected (with significant error rates) by the Apple Watch's optical (PPG) and electric (ECG) heart rate sensors. Other vendors have functionally equivalent capabilities.
But medically speaking, smartwatches are probably decades away from independently diagnosing anything, let along recommending an intervention (i.e. a drug or surgery). Kurzweil's terms have specific meanings in medicine and current technology is nowhere close to that.
What exists today (or, in 2019) is a very narrow use case and far from the broad and general scenario Kurzweil envisioned. And there is no realistic roadmap to achieve any more than incremental development in this area - PPG and ECG were "low-hanging fruit" in some sense, and medically actionable wearable sensors for pretty much any other medical signal present orders of magnitude larger engineering challenges that few people are even seriously working on. Hence, "mostly wrong."
> But medically speaking, smartwatches are probably decades away from independently diagnosing anything
But it's because we won't do it. There's nothing technical or hard to make this right.
I don't believe it's hard to pick up a heart attack using a wearable. But I don't think many heart attacks are picked up with wearables.
Record everything, if something is different see a doctor should both meet this requirement and be highly beneficial.
A smartwatch will just communicate. That could be to an online database or a person.
If the intent is around privacy and no doctor or external thing is ever consulted and not recommended to be consulted. Then, yes it's decades away.
> Record everything, if something is different see a doctor should both meet this requirement and be highly beneficial.
Cue massive amounts of false alarms.
Even with those insulin devices the biggest innovations were made by some of its users themselves as far as I'm aware(see "looping").
> But medically speaking, smartwatches are probably decades away from independently diagnosing anything, let along recommending an intervention
Continuous PPG in its current form can diagnose acute and chronic changes in our health condition but the vendors are reluctant to do so. As examples, the newer PPG devices with SpO2 can detect acute and chronic changes in oxygen saturation (critical with COVID-19), Heart Rate Variability (HRV) can indicate infection associated stress, HRV should be used as a proxy for breathing rate, and the Machine Learning derived sleep cycles can indicate sleep disorders.
The data is useful now but the off-device analysis necessary seems to missing in action.
When you instead grade his foresight on the basis of how he predicts the development of technology over time, it's clear that a lot of what would seem to be partial hits if assessed alone should actually be graded as hard fails. Discussion about the ubiquity of computers and their use in non-traditional roles for computers is a firm example here.
> “Many of the life processes encoded in the human genome, which was deciphered more than ten years earlier, are now largely understood, along with the information-processing mechanisms underlying aging and degenerative conditions such as cancer and heart disease.”
This is an example of where the author is going way too easy on Ray (he called it "partly right"). One of the biggest futurist misses of the 21st century is the role of genomics. While genomic sequencing has become incredibly routine, that hasn't actually resulted in the revolution in medicine that it was thought to have by, well, everybody. A key case in point is COVID-19 and some of the mutations: we understand very well details about some of its evolution, and we can pinpoint those mutations to individual genetic letters, but we still struggle to actually develop any predictive effects on its behavior (e.g., is this new strain more infective? more deadly? more resistant against vaccines?--we can't answer those questions without seeing what happens in real infections).
Contrast with organic chemistry. Decades ago, figuring out how to synthesize something ugly like vitamin B12 was insanely difficult, even Nobel Prize-worthy. But nowadays, it's the sort of task you might give to a junior chemical engineer in the first week to onboard them (although maybe not for something as difficult as vitamin B12). The thought was that genomics would lead biology to a similar sort of plane of existence--that we could treat genes as a ready menu for achieving various biological goals, and treating disease (at least those with genetic components) would be handled with a similarly combination of picking and choosing from this well-understood menu. That's what Ray was predicting here (more specifically, that the genetic influence on aging, cancer, and heart disease has succumbed to this process), and we really haven't made any progress on that front.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnigenic_model
And that doesn’t even begin to touch on epigenetic modifications.
It is possible, but building a whole-organism model requires huge amounts of data for each individual, which isn’t economically feasible at the moment. The 1000$ genome is there, but we need to bring it down to 10$ or less.
That is one of the reasons why modern bioinformatics is relying on mechanistic statistical models so much. You have to be incredibly smart with your models since there’s so few samples to work with.
Absolutely, and this blog post is being way too generous.
In part one, he gave this a RIGHT: “Computers are now largely invisible. They are embedded everywhere–in walls, tables, chairs, desks, clothing, jewelry, and bodies.”
Yes, but actually no. You know that what Kurzweil was imagining was that there would be powerful computers embedded in stuff, and each would run some sort of AI with personality, so your toaster would have a personality, and your TV would have a personality, and it could - in a Star Wars droid-y way - recommend movies to you, allowing you to have a conversation with it:
"Sir, I think this new SciFi series called The Expanse would be very interesting to you!"
Yes, my TV has a processor. Yes, my TV has WiFi. But it's primary purpose is to show me ads and spy on what I'm watching to increase ad revenues somewhere, and although I can "talk" to my TV, what actually happens is that if I say the title of a movie or a show, my audio will be transmitted to some server somewhere, wrongly transcribed, and then my TV will display all the places I can rent episodes of Friends from.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hard fail.
None of those routinely have microcontrollers in them. The closest are probably bodies (e.g. pacemakers) and maybe walls (e.g. smart light switches or power outlets with USB sockets). Jewelry with various computing devices exists but is hardly common and the only desks with computers in them that I know of are these gaming PC case desks that almost nobody has.
Do they actually put xray devices directly into the chair? I always had to go into a special shielded room with an xray machine that slowly moves around my head.
The ones he was mostly wrong on, are the highly speculative ai boosterism which is why Kurzweil is laughed at by many people.
I've felt grumpy about Kurzweil since 1982 or so. He made some really good innovative stuff happen in computing for blind people and then dived into fame and attention seeking lunacy. He's unquestionably smart, far smarter than me. He appears to have set himself time wasting goals.
I totally fail to see what value he brings google compared to eg Vint Cerf or Rob Pike or Ken Thompson.
https://kk.org/thetechnium/the-singularity/
was the calling bullshit moment for me [1]. It is a nice thought though - if we just wait then technology solves all of our problems.
It basically comes in two flavours. The "it's dangerous" crowd is as Ted Chiang put it imagining the singularity as no-holds-barred capitalism, because when they imagine superintelligence the only thing they can come up with is the companies they work for.The paperclip AI is just a VC funded startup, the only difference is it's even better at disruption than their employers.
The Kurzweil one is basically just recycled Christian eschatology, where the final judgement comes around, we'll resurrect the dead, defeat death and so on.
So it's basically two American timeless cultural classics, the funny part is that people in that crowd don't seem to notice it
I like it. Try to take as hard sci-fi. It's plausible enough to let your imagination run with it. Don't take it seriously enough to turn it into a religion and it's all good fun escapism. I've accepted that we all need a way to think away the fear of dying. I like this one.
His predictions are part of his personal eschatology. He is man in religious quest for personal salvation.
All his past predictions and timeframes are conveniently set so that there is change for him to live forever. He is nutrition and immortality nut (Fantastic Voyage: Live Long Enough to Live Forever and Transcend: Nine Steps to Living Well Forever). He is now 72 years old. If he lives to old age with all his life extension pills and rapture of the nerds happens in 25 years he could just make it.
https://www.elephantjournal.com/2020/12/how-covid-exposed-th...
People who truly understand technology can be very optimistic about it's potential.
Deterioration is not really compatible with forever anyway.
The idea is to prevent or recover from age-related disease and degredation.
Certainly most everyone likes the idea of staying healthier as they age. This is just progressing that idea with speculation about potential technologies.
Or, no rational person should want to live, because life is mostly drudgery and inconvenience and it also includes a fair amount of pain and anxiety. If you're a materialist, death would free you from that and any regrets about missing out on any positives or guilt about unfulfilled obligations.
Death is a good thing on the whole. If we cease to die then humanity is doomed. Young people need to invent a world of their own at each new generation; if old people (and therefore, old ideas, old prejudices) never die then there is no room for new.
Additionally, from a practical perspective it becomes indefensible to make new people (have kids) because where will they all go?
Not dying is the most selfish attitude imaginable; that level of selfishness is irrational.
This is a profoundly ageist viewpoint that sadly is very common in our industry. That’s why 40-somethings are laid off so 20-somethings can reinvent the wheel yet again in the shitty “framework” that’s fashionable this week. In every other industry, medicine, law, science you name it, experience is prized.
Certainly there would be need of a different economic model in a mortality-optional world so that young people who have yet to celebrate their first centennial can thrive, but that was also true when industry replaced feudalism and people started to stay in school until 21 (YMMV) instead of starting families the moment puberty hit.
Note: just to be clear, since text sometimes misses tone, I'm using a rhetorical 'you', not trying in any way to accuse you personally of the attitude described above!
[0] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doctors-older-age-patient-morta...
Is that because there's no room? Or because we're unwilling to accommodate the new?
You can't have both Medicare for all and no Medicare for all - you can't accommodate the new without replacing the old.
Birth rates are currently below replacement levels in developed nations. And if you’re immortal, you can wait forever to start your family.
Even with the current falling birthrates, you would not be able to move more people off the planet than are being born on it, even with space elevators. Space colonization is not a cure for overpopulation of Earth. One of the things Kim Stanley Robinson explored in his Mars trilogy.
For one fiction yet science based case of moving most of Earths population off planet during a short time window, see the following Orions Arm article: https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/49b46fd2198ed
5.5 bilion people over 20 years.
Powerful people consolidate their power, discouraging subversive ("disruptive") technology.
Hence, 'physics advances one funeral at a time' etc.
Can you really say that without the benefit of hindsight colouring that assessment?
This is not exactly true. Welfare in some parts of the US may be minimal; for example, food stamps may be available but not enough to feed yourself every meal. Further, housing assistance may be non-existent or virtually so in the sense that many are homeless while waiting extended periods of time before they can utilize it, don’t qualify because their income is too low (it’s true, but how does that make sense?), or such housing is temporary.
Also, some of the “right” interpretations are rather optimistic or generous in their assessment. But fun read.
Unless absolutely best is provided. This will always remain the case. One has to compare 3rd world countries to see how generous US system is even in its current
The point about facial recognition cameras is fair though.
Some accidents have been located in the Bay Area that way, which is helpful considering that Palo Alto and Redwood City airports have marshy areas.
“ShotSpotter system records tragic plane crash” https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2010/02/19/shotspotter-s...
Thankfully, because the idea that machine intelligence should have rights is based on a fundamental and obvious mistake: first they're not alive, second they've not evolved to feel pain or any other drive related to being alive.
You can't literally kill an artificial intelligence. What if you tried? Joke's on you, I have a snapshot from 10s ago. What if I destroy that snapshot? Joke's still on you, I have a full backup from last night. What if I destroy that backup too? Dude, I got an offlined tape in the vault. And anyway it was distributed to begin with.
Not only is it not for a living being, but it's definitely not for a non-living device.
Do your conclusions still stand ?
And an actual AI migh be as complex and sensitive as such a copy of a live person or possibly even more.
(edit: fixed typos :P)
Indeed they do, but the situation is different enough in other ways to have other implications.
Addendum: the fact that a transferred consciousness could inherit evolved traits such as pain (psychological if not physical), fear of death and so on would change the analysis as well. Those have no reason to exist in a constructed consciousness / GPAI.
Or at least not in normal form - eq. if it makes sure enough instances are kept running somewhere or are backed up and could be run it might not care about the rest, significantly reducing chances of conflict.
* I assume that with "alive" you mean "can die", because I see no other reason why "being alive" could be relevant to your argument.
Otherwise, you’re in the realms of prophecy or horoscopes where most of the heavy lifting is done by the reader after the fact.
Edited to add my own surprising-but-useless prediction: “Computers as we know them today will be largely abandoned by the year 2050”.
> If “algorithms” is another name for “computer intelligence” in the prediction’s text, then yes...
If that fragment is to be taken seriously, then much of what Kurzweil predicted for 2019 was also true in 1998. Algorithms carried out by computer have been used to administer and surveil since before the 90s.
Personally, my understanding of Kurzweil is that "computer intelligence" is something greater than just an algorithm that is carried out by a machine, but could be done by a human. It would mean something more malleable and conscious than that. Based on that standard I'd say he's wrong about nearly everything (save the privacy one - but again - that was true in 1998 with weaker encryption).
What? How does this follow?
Kurzweil fandom bullshit, all of it.
Life expectancy increases are mostly a statistical fluke of reducing child mortality. Once you factor that out, our upwards trend is way less impressive.
People get into these discussions of specific predictions with their worldviews motivating the evaluation of the predictions. That's why you have strong disagreements about what ostensibly would be a fairly objective measures. Because people see the world in radically different ways.
There are different variations of views towards technology but at the extremes you have "true believers" and what I would call "haters".
What about the cases of virtual divas, such as the OG from Vocaloid, Miku Hatsune, and now the whole section of vtubers, such as Hololive? Seems like it hits that spot, although still a tiny niche.
Similarly a Virtual YouTuber is just an animated model driven by motion-capture software, with the motions and voice provided by a human. I doubt this is what Kurzweil had in mind.
The narrative of near-future (10-20 years) medical breakthroughs is continually reiterated by the media, only with the horizon pushed further and further forward, with the effect of distorting the public's perception of the actual pace of medical innovation.
I wonder what kind of changes (regulatory or other) you would see if the general public came to accept that radical progress in medicine - absent radical change - wasn't going to happen in their lifetimes, and that medicine twenty years from now would be little different and only marginally more effective than it is today.
> MOSTLY RIGHT
This first one should be “mostly wrong”. The vast majority of decisions are made without any involvement or consultation with machine-based intelligence.
In air combat, whether A2A or air to ground, smart missiles are the primary weapon with planes acting as the launch platform. Guns are there as a backup, to fire warning shots, or to save on the expense of the missile. To wit, according to a former fighter pilot streaming air combat sims, he didn't train much on guns even though it's commonly used in the game for the sportmanship aspect.
Sounds like a lot of song lyrics I've heard.
If I was a pedant, I’d point out that the mRNA vaccines are not antiviral treatments, and this prediction was WRONG; the balance of power clearly lies with potential attackers right now.
I am a pedant.