Penrose is probably correct about the limit of AI. We're living in many simulations now. And sometimes we cannot distinguish between reality and simulations. But one thing that stands out is the suffering. It's an important concept in Buddhism, Duḥkha. Suffering may be a key to consciousness. Machines can have minds. But they don't have bodies. They'd never understand reality on their own. The danger is more with humans. They may increasingly connect their own sufferings into machines. They become tools and slaves for machines.