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Argentina legalises abortion in landmark moment for women's rights

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> Karina Marolla, a 49-year-old opponent of the law, said: “What was voted for today is the death penalty for the most innocent. Today in Argentina there’s no law giving the death penalty to rapists or murderers. So we’re feeling sad, to put it lightly.”

It's buried toward the bottom, but I'm genuinely surprised that opponents got the appearance of a fair shake in The Guardian.

I'm really happy for all Argentinean women, including my two little daughters, this law makes Argentina a freer (better) country.

This is just an oportunistic political move ahead of next year's elections. The government doesn't really care about abortion. Source: Argentinian living in Argentina.

If the outcome is net-positive, does it matter because of which reasons it was achieved?

Well, it depends how do you measure positivizes. The babies that are going to be aborted, for sure don't see it as positive.

"Net positive" means here that despite negative effects, the end result is still preferable to other outcomes.

(While not quite applicable here,) the easiest example to explain this is when the pregnancy threatens the lives of both mother-to-be and unborn child. An abortion will end the life of the child but the mother gets to live. In the other case both mother and child would die. So an abortion would be "net positive" because only the child dies and not both of them.

But that was already legal in Argentina. Here what they voted is abortion because I want it and that´s it.

The example was meant to make clear what "net positive" means. Do you actually believe that women get abortions because "they want them"? That there are no real reasons? Not because untimely offspring might throw them and their family into poverty again? Not because the partner might be unsuitable for raising children and they would be left on their own with them in short order?

This is strawmanning.

No one who advocates for life believes that there aren't any mitigating circumstances.

People who advocate for life believe that there aren't any mitigating circumstances that justify murder.

Still a lot of countries which are not blue:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Abortion...

Which are also countries where overpopulation and destitution are most prevalent. Improving access to education, contraception, and abortion for women worldwide should be our #1 foreign aid objective. We should target this in place of food aid.

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