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I call bullshit. The VGA port is still alive and well. Wanna bet $50?

It is dying. I've got a mess of monitors that are VGA/DVI, and the video cards don't always have that output anymore. Some do... but watching them fade. VGA maxes out at 1920x1200 or so before you need to make the jump to DVI. Think dual link DVI starts at 2560x1440.

If you know of a 3080 that has DVI, I'm interested.

it's dying off as a source, but my guess is it will remain as an input for a long time. the TV I bought this year still has component video inputs. when's the last time you bought a piece of equipment that only outputs analog video?

How else can i plug in my Super Nintendo?

Open Source Scan Converter [1] or Analogue Super Nt [2].

[1] https://videogameperfection.com/products/open-source-scan-co...

[2] https://www.analogue.co/super-nt

"up to 2048×1536px (QXGA) @85 Hz (388 MHz)."

from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA_connector#Cable_quality

VGA is a far more future-proof analog interface than these digital drm-friendly "successors".

For some time you required VGA to drive the highest resolutions because HDMI hadn't yet delivered the necessary bandwidth.

Show me a GPU made in the last five years that is even capable of outputting VGA.

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gt-710-gt-710-2gd3h-lp/p/...

that card was launched in 2014...

https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-geforce...

I thought that the DVI port had VGA pins most of the time. A lot of projectors are still VGA only at various places you might give a talk

Only DVI-I carries analog. Look for the four dot grid on the left of the connector. If the dots are not there then there is no analog video output.

Show me a projector made in the last five years that isn't capable of inputting VGA?

I mean, don't actually, they do exist (mostly in the realm of inexpensive portable mini-projectors). They're the exception, though, not the norm.

VGA is most certainly still around (and, I agree, shouldn't be, as it is also still terrible), just not in the market that spends $800 on GPUs.

This is now done by dongles that convert to VGA.

There are no options that push pixel clocks that native RAMDACs can. The Delock 26297 (which needs to be imported from Germany) can hit about 250 MHz, which is enough for most uses. Unfortunately, the connector is total rubbish and causes serious signal integrity issues. I have two and one of them can barely hit 150 MHz.

There is a USB-C option which can supposedly hit 300 MHz.

RAMDACs hit 400 MHz. It’s a real shame they’re not in new cards. Hence my point: VGA is dead because it isn’t in new hardware.

HDCP is also alive and well. (3.5mm headphone, not so much)

I find it really interesting that Apple chose to include 3.5mm jacks in their M1 MacBooks.

Aren't they dual analog + optical out?

They have not been for a few years now. I think the 2012 mac books were the last to have them?

Not since 2015. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202730

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