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Zoom Shared US User Data with Beijing

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Careful about this source.

NTD is a part of the media empire of Falun Gong and related exile Chinese alt-right groups in the US.

I would not count them as trustworthy at all.

Here's an alternative source: https://theepochtimes.com/zoom-shared-american-user-data-wit...

hahahaha Epoch Times as an alternative source to NTD. Now I've seen it all.

Yeah, when I linked it I was unaware of the associations of the two websites. I have since educated myself on the matter and agree that trusting this article isn't the best idea, and that the [flag] was justified.

They are also a highly suspect source also associated with Falun Gong.

Which is also part of the same media empire ...

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/china-based-executive-us-tele...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/18/zoom-he...

> Jin monitored Zoom’s video system for discussions of political and religious topics deemed unacceptable by China’s ruling Communist Party, the complaint states, and he gave government officials the names, email addresses and other sensitive information of users, even those outside China.

That’s a different story and set of circumstances than the title article.

How so? Both articles talk about the same incident, and the washington post says it comes from unsealed FBI complaint. If US users talked on Zoom about Tiananmen square and Zoom terminated the meeting and gave Chinese government the usernames, that to me qualifies as "Zoom shared US User Data with Beijing"

With China, ANY source is more trustworthy than Chinese state media and its affiliates. It may be Falun Gong but at least it’s not the Ministry of State Security.

> When Zoom usage exploded during the pandemic, China tightened control. It ordered Zoom employees to shut down what Beijing calls “illegal” meetings and accounts within one minute. If it took more than one minute, it was rated “security non-compliant.”

Sounds like due process!

TL;DR:

Former Zoom executive Jin Xinjiang worked with Chinese authorities to provide data on users outside of China.

It allegedly told Zoom that if it wanted to get back into the Chinese market, it had to monitor user communications, censor unacceptable topics, give data on around 1 million people in the United States, and hand over special access to Zoom's systems.

Zoom got back into China's market in November of last year.

Any company that originated from, passes Information through, China should be viewed with absolute suspicion. If it’s something that needs to remain confidential, it would be prudent to consider a different option.

seems to be a duplicate/same story of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25474372

Why Zoom isn't blocked is a mystery to me.

If it was up to me, it would be blacklisted in app stores, antiviruses (incl. windows' own), malicious website lists and data protection regulations.

Instead, individuals, companies and government offices are literally using it.

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