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If you're worried about dragnet surveillance- which is a large proportion of what Snowden revealed- then Signal is not a bad thing to recommend.

There are no apps that resist the phone being rooted. Everyone is vulnerable to 0days by definition.

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I wonder why noone makes a 'no root system' su root NO su no YES.

so you're user YES, which is NO-root, but YES

rm -rf /

Great Sucess.

NO or NON root system, it seems like a marketable gimmick.

Must be up your people's ass.

> There are no apps that resist the phone being rooted. Everyone is vulnerable to 0days by definition.

I don't know why everybody is repeating this as if I somehow don't understand that. My point is Signal is promoted as some sort of panacea by security professionals even though all that security can be bypassed, likely routinely by actual bad guys.

I mean that that Snowden specifically agitated about dragnet surveillance, so it's not at all surprising that he'd promote the encrypted messaging app that he thinks is the most effective against it.

Has he ever said that Signal is the end-all, perfect solution that will prevent all kinds of threats and provide perfect privacy? I am sure there is a lot of sloppy messaging out there, but an endorsement along the lines of "I trust Signal's encryption and that it's not backdoored" is not unreasonable

I think the problem here is that you have misinterpreted a recommendation that is using the median risk as a recommendation that is using the p100 risk. Allow me to correct that for you: security professionals are not recommending Signal as protection against the p100 risk. Hope that helps.

You can't say a firewall is insecure because someone installed it in a network where one can walk in freely and take the passwords off of the sticky note on the desk.

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