Zuckerberg is worth >3x the annual income of all surgeons in the US. It is implausible that his net worth reflects his replacement cost. Even PG has said (to Zuckerberg) that if it wasn't him, it would have been someone else.
Zuckerberg is worth >3x the annual income of all surgeons in the US. It is implausible that his net worth reflects his replacement cost. Even PG has said (to Zuckerberg) that if it wasn't him, it would have been someone else.
> It is implausible that his net worth reflects his replacement cost.
Why should it? His net worth reflects the expected value of the portion of Facebook that he owns. Why would it have anything to do with his replacement cost?
As a society, the only thing that we take out of Zuckerberg is his labour, so he shouldn't get anymore than the replacement cost of his labour. In other words, if someone would have done Zuckerberg's work for less compensation - and the GP asserts it is the case - then we as a society lose by having Zuckerberg do it instead of the lower compensated alternative.
In other words, when someone gets paid more than their replacement cost, there is a market inefficiency that causes loss to the vast majority.
Zuckerberg is not employed by society. We're not all collectively paying him a salary.
If you're saying we should completely abolish private property, that's a different thing altogether.
We allow people to own capital because it motivates them to do some types of work. If we allow people to concentrate more capital than necessary to motivate them to do that work, we lose.
Shares of stock, the secondary stock market - these are also arbitrary constructs which have been created to serve some purpose.
There’s some magical thinking regarding capitalism - that it practically runs itself; that is ensures efficient allocation of capital.
Capitalism may tend to decentralize economic decision-making, and it may tend to align production incentives with actual demand. But, that doesn’t mean it’s efficient. Efficiency would mean that incentives would nearly match the minimum to ensure satisfaction of demand. What we in America have is a system which highly rewards people who control the labor of others. Our society values wealth, not work.
Outside of it, capitalist ideology also has the idea of the divine invisible hand of the free market, which is certainly an exageration, but in the real world markets with the proper conditions and regulations are pretty good at allocating capital.
You only really own something if enough people in society ("we") agree that you do own it. If enough of "us" change our mind (for instance, if your ownership is no longer useful to us), then you don't really own that thing anymore.
The fact that most people are not doing that should tell you that you are not as much a part of the dominant "we" as you think.
> The fact that most people are not doing that should tell you that you are not as much a part of the dominant "we" as you think.
You missed the point that I was making entirely.
If someone found a way to motivate people to do those kinds of labour properly - and force doesn't work well for many reasons, so it would have to be non-violent, but without having to allow ownership of capital and wealth concentration, why wouldn't we consider it? The Communists of old thought they found a way to do so and were wrong, but if someone today found a way to do it that doesn't cause many drawbacks, it would be foolish and dogmatic not to consider it, and if it works well, implement it.
However this also means that as long as we keep the resource allocation thing mostly intact you can manipulate all other aspects of it, like adding lots of taxes, giving aid to the poor etc. None of that messes with the main feature of resource allocation, which is why Scandinavian countries still have good economies.
Which is pretty much what I said :). Organizing production was a proxy for capital allocation.
That is one important definition, but it's just a statement of ideology.
Was Instagram only worth $1bn when they sold to Facebook in 2012. Are we supposed to ignore the fact that Instagram's options were sell for $1bn or face "Zuckerberg destroy mode"?