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> Pick only one: freedom or censorship

This is a weird American meme that I wish would die off.

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Please elaborate on why he's wrong?

There are forms of speech that infringe on the freedoms of other people.

Therefore censorship and freedom are not a dichotomy, they are linked dependencies.

> There are forms of speech that infringe on the freedoms of other people.

This is a nonsense authoritarian meme that I wish would die off.

Literally every single legal system on the planet accepts at least a few limitations on speech when it infringes on the rights of other people. If that is authoritarian, then everywhere is authoritarian.

I don't think you'll find too many people who think fraud should be protected speech, for instance.

The tolerance paradox

Popper is a retarded pseud and if you take “the tolerance paradox” seriously you should stop trying to make philosophical or political arguments. All it means if you think it’s relevant is that your personal philosophy is internally inconsistent and unstable.

If you would expand on that I could explain why you’re wrong.

This is a difficult conversation to have asynchronously and over text, and it’s also a difficult one to have with someone acting in bad faith. If you really want to play, please start by answering: does America currently have free speech?

If all men were angels, we would not need government.

That's as simple of a truth at the heart of the American constitution as any.

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