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Many other clickbait articles claimed that M1 is better than the best desktop class CPUs. I only tested the water and found otherwise. The 5900HX is planned and should be within 90% performance of my 5800X within 45W TDP. Not close to the power consumption, but then zen 3 is only on 7nm, while M1 is on 5nm.

The Mac Mini is $699 with only 8GB RAM, that runs out after a few browser tabs. So, for a work machine, you would need at least the 16GB model and add $200 to that. Though the build quality and the panel is excellent.

You could opt for the 5600X. The core count is not relevant in the article, as the benchmarks are mainly single-threaded.

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This is comparing the M1 which a mobile focused chip in a tiny power envelope to the pinnacle of AMD cpu design in a giant (relatively) power envelope. My point was that the article could have stood on its own without even benching against the M1. Just show the performance of the 5800X in tasks the M1 and the 5800X are not in the same league.

I don't know what you are talking about. The problem with fake information is that you have to spend more resources debunking it than it takes to create fake information in the first place.

> that runs out after a few browser tabs

Citation needed

Anecdotal, of course, but I currently have 42 tabs open in Firefox 84 (native M1 build) on an 8gb M1 Mac Mini, as well as two VS Code windows and a bunch of other things like Mail, Calendar, Authy, Bitwarden, etc. As far as memory management is concerned, user experience is indistinguishable from my 32gb Ryzen 3700X desktop with a Samsung NVMe.

8GB is plenty for most people right now. A browser won’t eat that much memory for normal sites and reasonable tab counts.

An interesting thing about the M1’s RAM limit, though, is that it literally can’t get any bigger. 16GB is pushing it, but fitting 32GB into a package-on-package simply can’t be done with our current tech. Apple is solely relying on Moore’s law for future advances because, with the way these processors are designed, external infrastructure would wreck performance.

If you need citation for that you clearly don't use jira.

I just spent all week on an 8gb mini with slack and about 50 JIRA tabs open. Works fine.

> The Mac Mini is $699 with only 8GB RAM, that runs out after a few browser tabs

You know swap exists right.

I just opened 30+ tabs on the MacBook Air without any issues.

The unified memory does go to great lengths to make memory not such an issue. It also pages a ton. I’ve read that people can throw up hundreds of tabs in safari on the 8GB model and be just fine.

The claims were fastest per-core performance, not fastest absolute performance in a single system. Heck, there are desktops out there with hundreds of cores in them, drawing hundreds of watts of power. I haven't had time to delve into most of these benchmarks, but they look multithreaded to me.

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