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I played about 14 hours on PC before uninstalling it.

The performance was fine and I had minor glitches here and there. The story bits were simply amazing, but the gameplay needed another year or two of development. This is clearly an unfinished game and most of the promised features are not in the game.

I reinstalled Deus Ex Mankind Divided and the tutorial level has better gameplay (gunplay, stealth, hacking) than Cyberpunk.

I will certainly revisit it in a year or two. Hopefully CDPR will keep on improving the gameplay, not only solve bugs and performance on consoles.

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Same. Graphics are excellent. Art assets are pretty well made. Human models look a little Daz3d like but it's fine. I don't have any performance issues on my Core-i7 9 series and RTX 2070. I do have an issue with a few gameplay elements though.

1: Driving feels sluggish, unresponsive, like I'm remote-controlling a buggie on the moon driving through molasses. I turn left and 250ms later I go left. Yet the wheels turn visually instantly. It's bad. Real bad.

2: Shooting feels like my bullets are digital slot machine values. I shot an enemy every 4th bullet does damage. I don't know what they were going for (Fallout?) but it makes gun fights tedious and not that fun. I feel less like a bad-ass pistol gunslinger from Blade Runner and more like a "pistolier" in a table top game of Fate. Gun fighting doesn't "feel" real-time like it should. Shooting a goon 12 times with my revolver (6 shot) at point blank range isn't my idea of immersion.

> Shooting feels like my bullets are digital slot machine values.

In a tabletop RPG they are literally rolls of dice, and CDPR set out to build Cyberpunk 2020: https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Cyberpunk_2020

So, the question may be: is this an RPG or an Action/Adventure looter shooter?

Some time ago I built a battle simulation based on the Cyberpunk tabletop rpg rules and official weapon stats and whoo boy, was it broken. Pistols did almost no damage at all whereas assault rifles were pretty much destroying everything in one turn. I really hope CDPR did not lift the system straight from the rpg.

The tabletop rpg rules for cyberpunk are for tabletop. Where math can’t be done in real time because humans. I expected a real-time adaptation of the rule set. If they wanted to be true to tabletop rules, it would be turn based.

> Gun fighting doesn't "feel" real-time like it should. Shooting a goon 12 times with my revolver (6 shot) at point blank range isn't my idea of immersion.

Totally agree.

Going from a dialogue to a shooting scene is like going from a Rembrandt painting to Team Fortress.

>Driving feels sluggish, unresponsive, like I'm remote-controlling a buggie on the moon driving through molasses. I turn left and 250ms later I go left.

And I'd been thinking that my complete inability to drive in Cyberpunk 2077 was because of Stadia lag.

lol, I can’t even imagine the frustration. At that point, just let Jackie drive.

The braking of the cars reminds me of driving my Mom's minivan in high school, whose brake pads had been corroded by road salt.

Maybe I'll reach that point, but honestly, apart from a couple of asset glitches now and then, I'm loving the game.

The story is solid, the voice acting great, the gameplay is pretty darned good. I don't see what has everyone so upset I guess.

> I don't see what has everyone so upset I guess.

In part it's because many people (me included) think the execution of the gameplay is poor.

And the other major part is that the game simply did not deliver the promised features on all the marketing videos by CDPR.

> And the other major part is that the game simply did not deliver the promised features on all the marketing videos by CDPR.

Like what? I keep seeing this, but nobody is being specific about it. I’m genuinely curious.

There's a whole thread full of them on reddit[1]. I encourage going through the linked threads in the post, a lot of the details are crucial, and the sources for the "promise" are damning.

1: https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kcve8s/promi...

That's the secret: I literally had to look up what the game was about before I bought it because all I knew was the name.

I highly doubt the're gonna be changes on the gameplay. As you advance theres way more to do unlocking abilities and skills, but the core gameplay is the same.

I don't know, the gunplay and melee combat has been awesome for me. W/o perks and in early levels, the guns are pretty inaccurate, but once you start specializing into weapons you can do some amazing things. A couple examples:

https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kfllqm/john_... https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumCyberpunk/comments/kd7994/...

I understand that console players are having a really bad time, and CDPR definitely blew it in releasing the game in its current state, but I love the gameplay loop of the side missions. Sneaking into an outpost, hacking a bit, getting into a strong position, then breaking into a killing spree amidst the incredible soundtrack.

Did you expect an RPG to have better gunplay than an FPS?

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